It doesn't make sense

[J5hort]

I'd love to see the algorithm used for the guess-o-meter. It fluctuates dramatically from my use to my wife's use, and recently shows 30 more for maximum range at 100%. May be due to recent updates.

In any event, my wife seems to be fixated on the range where I pay more attention to the charge level and treat it more like an old school fuel gauge. We charge every night and seldom will exceed less than 20% of the charge level.

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[ctenidae]

I'd love to see the algorithm used for the guess-o-meter. It fluctuates dramatically from my use to my wife's use, and recently shows 30 more for maximum range at 100%. May be due to recent updates.

In any event, my wife seems to be fixated on the range where I pay more attention to the charge level and treat it more like an old school fuel gauge. We charge every night and seldom will exceed less than 20% of the charge level.

Pretty sure it involves some monkeys, a handful of darts, and some paper towels.
With a 91 kWh battery, I just multiply the % by ~3, and use that as my Personal G-O-M. Seems accurate enough for most purposes.

If I get down to below 20%, I'll add in a PuckerFactor(tm), and may even apply a SweatMeter reading. In the unlikely event things look dire, the Nag-o-Tron will usually start doing some math, too, to provide additional incentive to not screw up like this ever again.

 

[J5hort]

Nothing more than a hundred mile trip for the duty of the MME for me. I'm in MA so trips to RI and west on pike or down to Cape Cod are really the only long trips. Well within a full charge.

Perhaps they should call the stock picking monkey out of retirement that beat all the wall st. traders in the stock market.
At least it might be more accurate.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Pretty sure it involves some monkeys, a handful of darts, and some paper towels.
With a 91 kWh battery, I just multiply the % by ~3, and use that as my Personal G-O-M. Seems accurate enough for most purposes.
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You forgot the duct tape, chewing gum, bailing wire, and mud. ??

 

[ctenidae]

You forgot the duct tape, chewing gum, bailing wire, and mud. ??

I don't go in for those fancy schmancy estimators. Chewing gum! You must be rich or something.

 

[Rumline]

TBH I love the way the Mach E balances regen, both coasting and with the blended brake pedal, outside of 1PD. But many other EVs either force 1PD (coughTESLA) or use some weird alternate activation like the steering wheel paddle. I'm sorry but those paddles are a lazy way to design it. The Mach E's regen is progressive based on how hard you hit the brake pedal (to a point), and those others are either on or off, within a selected high / med (if you're lucky) / low range.

 

[Cjpayne]

Our MME’s provide multiple driving modes and with or without one pedal. If you can not find one you like sell and move on!

 

[ctenidae]

TBH I love the way the Mach E balances regen, both coasting and with the blended brake pedal, outside of 1PD. But many other EVs either force 1PD (coughTESLA) or use some weird alternate activation like the steering wheel paddle. .

Ugh, flappy paddles would suck.
The GT is pretty good with regen, still a little rough, but it will prove. Tesla was wonderful at stopping where you needed to- it saw cars, stop signs, stop lines, everything. It was rough when I first got it, and would stop almost a full car length back. At the end, though, it would stop perfectly most of the time. Ford will get there, too.

 

[MachEnthusiast]

Ugh, flappy paddles would suck.
The GT is pretty good with regen, still a little rough, but it will prove. Tesla was wonderful at stopping where you needed to- it saw cars, stop signs, stop lines, everything. It was rough when I first got it, and would stop almost a full car length back. At the end, though, it would stop perfectly most of the time. Ford will get there, too.

My latest experience in a Tesla was still bad when it came to distance of stop. And that was a month ago.

 

[ctenidae]

My latest experience in a Tesla was still bad when it came to distance of stop. And that was a month ago.

YMMV. Could be I just adjusted to it and could feather it to stop where I wanted. That skill didn't translate directly to the MME, but it'll converge eventually, I'm sure.

 

[voxel]

TBH I love the way the Mach E balances regen, both coasting and with the blended brake pedal, outside of 1PD. But many other EVs either force 1PD (coughTESLA) or use some weird alternate activation like the steering wheel paddle. I'm sorry but those paddles are a lazy way to design it. The Mach E's regen is progressive based on how hard you hit the brake pedal (to a point), and those others are either on or off, within a selected high / med (if you're lucky) / low range.

I thought so too but the more you learn about "Auto-regen" of the Korean EVs... the more I want it.

Auto-regen will detect cars in front and turn on regen but if there are no cars then it will disable it allowing the car to coast. It's a "smart-regen" system because on the highways it is more efficient to coast.

And also from driving my MINI electric.. I prefer zero 1PD on the highway and full 1PD on city streets which is triggered by a physical toggle. I wish the MME had an physical button for it too.

Strong 1PD Regen is why the Korean EVs are insanely efficient in the city (see their MPGe). I constantly see reports of 4.0 to 5.0 mi/kWh efficiency on the Ioniq 5 and EV6. I don't get anywhere close to those numbers with my AWD ER with 1PD in urban driving but the MME is not very efficient overall anyhow.

 

[voxel]

On the other hand, both of these logs are actually quite accurate. A drive from our house at 4400 ft/1330 m msl to sea level over a rolling hills road route trending down. Then a return after several stops in Kona via a slightly different route. This is why my GOM rarely tops 200 miles (AWD ER).

Sometimes these "My EV driving logs" are 100% accurate and sometimes pure BS.

Tonight I measured my starting kWh (66.38 kWh) and my final kWh(52.81 kWh) with my ODB-II + CarScanner Pro app over a 44.8 mile trip and the numbers matched the log exactly. The distance was correct and so was the kWh used with slight rounding 13.57 kWh (actual) vs. 13.6 kWh (displayed).

 

[Rumline]

And also from driving my MINI electric.. I prefer zero 1PD on the highway and full 1PD on city streets which is triggered by a physical toggle. I wish the MME had an physical button for it too.

Fair enough; a physical button to toggle regen would be fine, especially if it was tied to that auto regen you described. I don't like the paddles on the Bolt, etron etc as implemented because you have to hold them to activate regen. If it was a toggle instead that'd be cool.

 

[voxel]

Fair enough; a physical button to toggle regen would be fine, especially if it was tied to that auto regen you described. I don't like the paddles on the Bolt, etron etc as implemented because you have to hold them to activate regen. If it was a toggle instead that'd be cool.

Hyundai and Kia paddles are used to switch regen levels. From I-pedal to none (not analog regen controls). I recall that’s how the Niro EV worked.

Tesla owners can do the same thing by CAN bus programming via low energy Bluetooth buttons.

https://abstractocean.com/products/s3xy-buttons

It would be nice if something like that existed for the MME. To toggle drive modes and 1PD on/off.

 

[Socalsp3]

I thought so too but the more you learn about "Auto-regen" of the Korean EVs... the more I want it.

Auto-regen will detect cars in front and turn on regen but if there are no cars then it will disable it allowing the car to coast. It's a "smart-regen" system because on the highways it is more efficient to coast.

And also from driving my MINI electric.. I prefer zero 1PD on the highway and full 1PD on city streets which is triggered by a physical toggle. I wish the MME had an physical button for it too.

Strong 1PD Regen is why the Korean EVs are insanely efficient in the city (see their MPGe). I constantly see reports of 4.0 to 5.0 mi/kWh efficiency on the Ioniq 5 and EV6. I don't get anywhere close to those numbers with my AWD ER with 1PD in urban driving but the MME is not very efficient overall anyhow.

Yes auto Regen from the Korean EVs are more efficient. I have an ioniq 5 also. It will let you coast when there is obstacle and activates Regen when there is an obstacle. There's a misconception that all Regen all the time is better. It's actually like carrying extra weight when you don't want it. The only time Regen is good is when you want to slow down.

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