kdryden99
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- First Name
- Richard
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- Nissan Sentra Spec-V, Infinite Blue Mach E4X Prem
1) Im not forcing my opinion on anyone, i expressed my opinion and asked if anybody feels the same. That is trying to validate if im missing something or if im out to lunch. I compare the 2 cars only based on price and the size and the fact that they are both EV's. Plain and simple.I see a problem with people bitching about things when they have no reasonable basis to bitch.
1. You have arrogated to yourself the right to decide which vehicles are similar. For several reason -- including ride and reliability -- I don't think the Model Y is all the competitive with the MME. You seem to think otherwise. That's fine because it's your money and you have a right to your opinion. But it's my money and I have a right to my opinion, so stop trying to force your opinion on me.
2. The corollary is that bitching about the terms and conditions of the sale is a waste of time. The cold reality is that Ford gets to set the terms of a sale and you are free to to take it or not. If you think the Model Y is a better deal, get it. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to get a MME. No purpose is served, including helping your mental state, by your continued bitching about something over which you have no control. Everyone understands that you want to pay less. Me too.
3. On the specifics of the bitching, as mentioned ad nauseam, a contract residual and the FMV at the end of the lease are not the same things. If you think you will want to keep the car then you want a low residual. If you don't then you want a high residual. But in neither case does the residual necessarily reflect FMV at the end of the lease.
4. On the specifics of the bitching, if the tax credit is treated as a reduction in MSRP, which is what it is, then the residual in three years is 55% and in four years 45%. That seems fair and hardly objectionable.
5. On the specifics of the bitching, the "lease" payment on a Model Y is not all the different from a lease payment on a MME. Seems to be less than fifty bucks (if you subtract out the incentives included for both the Model Y and the MME). And that is before you include the hands free driving option. Do that and the Model Y payments are more than the MME payments plus the hands free driving subscription.
6. On the specifics of the bitching, you have far more options with the MME. If the payments on a Premium with AWD and an extended battery are too high, go with a CA Route 1 or a Premium with a standard battery. The payments will be less. Nice you have those "options".
7. On whether the Model Y is comparable to the MME, there are advantages in not leasing the least reliable vehicle on the market. I don't want to be bothered taking a new car in to get a door adjusted, much less having to put up with multiple attempts to fix a door that doesn't work.
2)You are 100% right
3)I agree but thats not what Ford is telling us or else why change the leasing terms?
4)Again nothing to say on that, my incentive is different from yours
5)Here the model Y lease is 740$ with $5250 down. The MME IS 1200$ with 8000$ down. Not even close
6)There are other options but when I was shown 900$/month vs 1400$ for the same car how would u react.
7)Which is why i dont want a Y but I expected the trrms to be fairly similar since the MSRP was similar. Not 600$ a month more.
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