OKTB today..?

[eltonlin]

OKTB may require that a logistical plan for shipping out the vehicles is approved by management.

In the scheme of things, it's unimportant to me. It's an internal designator that I'd never have known about if not for discussions in this forum. In the larger picture of ordering a vehicle and finally receiving it, I just want to know when my vehicle will be ready for me to pick up.

Exactly. If OKTB is given, the next set of questions / debates / posts will be around how long it'll take to be transported. It'll increase my anxiety level that's for sure.

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[dbsb3233]

I‘m believing what the Ford insider posted as best as I can make it out.

“trutolife27 said:
lol hold on see you guys are reading and saying things not out there No oktb is given”

How should we interpret the Ford insider‘s post that “no oktb is given”? Is he saying OKTB has been given or OKTB has not been given?

If OKTB was reached, what day was it reached?

Yep. I think most of us originally understood OKTB as just being about the vehicle passing all it's tests and being ready. And in that context it has.

But apparently OKTB also hinged on shipping. Or they simply chose to keep a hold on OKTB until they could start shipping, just in case. That either hasn't happened quite yet, or we haven't heard it has yet.

To me it's moot because the vehicle itself was the important part, and that's OK to go. OKTB has turned out to be a bit of a semantic distinction regarding shipping.

 

[MailGuy]

In the scheme of things, it's unimportant to me. It's an internal designator that I'd never have known about if not for discussions in this forum. In the larger picture of ordering a vehicle and finally receiving it, I just want to know when my vehicle will be ready for me to pick up.

Exactly!! At this point we've learned how threads can go off the rails with too much speculation. The cars will arrive when they arrive and we have to be content with that. We should all sit back and simply watch things progress with the tools and information posted across the forum and be excited for our own individual progress. Yes, I realize that's easier said knowing I'm in production, but there's little anyone can know until they hit that milestone.

Personally, every day I sit down to work at my home office and see my Window Sticker lying there, it just makes me smile. I'm content knowing the end is near.

 

[eastern refugee]

Exactly!! At this point we've learned how threads can go off the rails with too much speculation. The cars will arrive when they arrive and we have to be content with that. We should all sit back and simply watch things progress with the tools and information posted across the forum and be excited for our own individual progress. Yes, I realize that's easier said knowing I'm in production, but there's little anyone can know until they hit that milestone.

Personally, every day I sit down to work at my home office and see my Window Sticker lying there, it just makes me smile. I'm content knowing the end is near.

ok I have to be honest. Everyday I read someone else got their production date and I was frustrated. All I saw was in production. I felt like the guy at the airport baggage claim seeing everyone else getting their bags and wondering if mine ended up in Australia.

now that I do in fact have a real production date it is VERY easy to say sure I can wait. For those that do not I understand your frustration honestly.

personally speaking what Ford should have done is allowed EVERYONE to see a progress sheet on line. Ok my car is being painted. Ok my cars is getting wheels etc. the technology obviously exists because someone has to track where the car is at. Make it open and it would be like picking it up at the factory. You get to see each step and the stress level would decrease to zero. I cannot say how many times I have opened up www.macheforum.com/site/pages/tracker to see nothing new. I got so frustrated that I clicked on every aspect. Reading g all of the options over and over and over again. I think I nearly memorized every code.

as someone on this forum pointed out the date of my production was the EXACT date that I joined this forum. Makes you wonder. Hmmmm. Is there a bigger picture that I am not seeing or just pure luck. Hmmm something new to ponder.

 

[SnBGC]

For what it is worth....the Ford Vehicle Tracking website has never worked for me. I just checked it again a few moments ago and I still get the same "We are unable to recognize your VIN" message.

Because my dealer provided me with the Full History Report from his system.....I don't need the Ford Vehicle Tracking website to function anyway.

The www.macheforum.com/site/pages/tracker website created by @427CobraJet has always reported my information correctly and has a nifty link to retrieve the window sticker so that is the one I check from time to time. I am looking to see my status change to "In Transit" at some point before the year ends.

Food for thought. The media embargo ends at 6 AM EDT on the 15th. Is it possible that the cars will ship at the same time?? My guess is Ford does not want these cars to arrive until the media covers the internet with their views. If cars were delivered ahead of the embargo then the media would have a much LOWER appeal. In this way media goes all over the net and BOOM cars are now available to see and test drive.

in short demand will increase with a media blitz since no one in the public has driven one and the media gets theirs out first.

I think the ideal scenario would be to have demo vehicles in the showroom before the media review reports are published. If any interest is generated from the youtubers reviews then a person could immediately go see and drive one for themselves.

If Ford waits until the 15th to ship cars then none will be in showrooms for test drives when the embargo is lifted. Timing isnt ideal IMO.

The shipping is almost certainly handled via third party agent. They likely have multiple subcontractors for this purpose. Some or many may not be set up for data entry into Ford's tracking system. It is possible that some vehicles have shipped but data not entered yet.

We already see a delay in data entry into certain systems so it isnt all that unrealistic to think that might also be happening with shipping. It would be even MORE likely if the shipping contractor is using "creative solutions" to expedite the freight.

More food for thought.....

 

[dbsb3233]

Food for thought. The media embargo ends at 6 AM EDT on the 15th. Is it possible that the cars will ship at the same time?? My guess is Ford does not want these cars to arrive until the media covers the internet with their views. If cars were delivered ahead of the embargo then the media would have a much LOWER appeal. In this way media goes all over the net and BOOM cars are now available to see and test drive.

Even if that were part of the thought process (which I doubt as I think they just want to ship as soon as they can regardless), "arrivals" don't occur until weeks after "ship" dates. Even if they were able to ship many out a week ago, they still wouldn't have arrived before the 15th.

 

[eastern refugee]

Even if that were part of the thought process (which I doubt as I think they just want to ship as soon as they can regardless), "arrivals" don't occur until weeks after "ship" dates. Even if they were able to ship many out a week ago, they still wouldn't have arrived before the 15th.

ok. Just speculating. I am in SoCal so not sure why it would take weeks to get here.

 

[dbsb3233]

ok. Just speculating. I am in SoCal so not sure why it would take weeks to get here.

There's just a lot of churn involved with shipping so many vehicles out. It's not like a private transfer that could probably cover the 1800 miles to SoCal in 3-4 days. They're dealing with large batches. There's probably 4000+ at the plant right now. When they get the shipping operation flowing (if they haven't already), many hundreds per day will be going out. That's a lot of loading and unloading time. Most will probably go by train, and may require multiple train transfers. Then all the offloading and reloading to local transport. Or perhaps some longhaul truck in there too (there were some reports of shipping thousands to Kansas City first, then reshipping in the US/Canada from there). And even after local transport, dealers probably take a day or two to process and prep the vehicle.

2 weeks for some deliveries closer to Mexico might be doable. But I think 3-4 weeks was the more common estimate for most of the US/Canada. And that's not really counting backlog that's building at the plant now.

 

[SnBGC]

ok. Just speculating. I am in SoCal so not sure why it would take weeks to get here.

Would be nice to have more info about the process for sure. Unfortunately it appears we have very little if any info at all.

Ford has many different assembly plants. KC, Kentucky, Ohio, Michigan, Mexico etc. They might all send cars by rail to a common hub that may or may not be regional. Vehicles of all types are sorted and parked in loading areas for truck transport to the final destination. In that scenario, a truck transport might be loaded with all types of Ford vehicles....not just Mach Es.

It probably is quite common for large quantities of trucks to ship from the Kentucky plant on a regular basis due to production volume. It might be much less common to ship high volume of vehicles from the Cuatitilan plant but that is the situation at the moment.

I expect the shipping process on the table is outside the normal parameters......at least until the volume stabilizes in Mexico.

 

[DaveRuns]

This matches with what I've learned from my dealer and what my neighbors (all Ford retirees) tell me. The status of "In production" means your car is actively being assembled (not merely scheduled to be assembled at a future time) ... also that the "production date" is the date the car was finished.

My window sticker date updated today (which makes me wonder if it moved to the next phase). But this being the weekend, I am not expecting any updates before Monday.

My window sticker changed as well. My build week was 6 December. Well, I was first given access to the window sticker on 5 December, and the date at the bottom of the sticker was 12/05/2020. I've been checking the sticker all week. Today, the date on the window sticker changed to 12/12/2020. Now, I don't know what that means. The Ford Tracker site still says "In Production". The Production Date field on the trackertech site is still blank. I hope the car is being built and will be finished soon. Perhaps that doesn't matter anyway, because no cars are being shipped now.

 

[SnBGC]

My window sticker changed as well. My build week was 6 December. Well, I was first given access to the window sticker on 5 December, and the date at the bottom of the sticker was 12/05/2020. I've been checking the sticker all week. Today, the date on the window sticker changed to 12/12/2020. Now, I don't know what that means. The Ford Tracker site still says "In Production". The Production Date field on the trackertech site is still blank. I hope the car is being built and will be finished soon. Perhaps that doesn't matter anyway, because no cars are being shipped now.

Ignore that date. It is virtually meaningless. Affects nothing related to the build schedule of your car. My car was built on 11/18 and that date has changed 3 times since then.

 

[DBC]

The Ford Tracker site still says "In Production". The Production Date field on the trackertech site is still blank. I hope the car is being built and will be finished soon. Perhaps that doesn't matter anyway, because no cars are being shipped now.

As SnBGC says, the sticker date is meaningless. On Ford Vehicle Tracking, do you have the message saying your vehicle is currently being produced at a factory? If so it will likely soon show a date for "Scheduled for Production" which seems to actually be the production date, at which time Fordtracker will also show a production date.

My build weeks was November 29/30 and my production date ended up being 10 December. Given your build week is only a week later, you should be seeing it soon.

 

[TxTom]

My window sticker changed as well. My build week was 6 December. Well, I was first given access to the window sticker on 5 December, and the date at the bottom of the sticker was 12/05/2020. I've been checking the sticker all week. Today, the date on the window sticker changed to 12/12/2020. Now, I don't know what that means. The Ford Tracker site still says "In Production". The Production Date field on the trackertech site is still blank. I hope the car is being built and will be finished soon. Perhaps that doesn't matter anyway, because no cars are being shipped now.

With my prior Ford and Lincoln purchases that date at the very bottom of the Monroney label has been the date I call up/access that label.

 

[ajmartineau]

I have been assuming Ford would/will have the MME arriving in showrooms on the 15th or 16th. I’m sure they have plenty of places to stage them around the country. I would be very surprised if they were all still sitting on the lot at the plant in Mexico.

 

[agoldman]

I don't think any have moved to ship. But I don't think we really know. My guess is the first will arrive around 12/31 right before the dealer closes for New Years Eve.

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