Old Batteries in "New" Model 3s

[shoopla]

Anyone else see this? 2017 batteries in 2021 models.

https://electrek.co/2021/12/20/tesla-strange-warning-putting-2017-battery-packs-brand-new-cars/

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[JohnnyForensic]

If Ford did this, the Tesla stans would be lighting Twitter on fire. Yet, honestly, it seems like every day we’re getting a new story like this about Tesla. I admit, I was on the edge about which to buy a long time ago, but I’m really glad I went with the Mach-E.

 

[ARK]

Aside from the Tesla business practices angle to this, what’s interesting is they think a battery would degrade up to 12% with the passage of 4-5 years.

I’m sure that’s inflated by the lawyers to make sure everyone gets roped in and for most of those cars probably it’s a lot less than 12%.

But still, assuming they kept those packs in storage around 50% charge, these batteries have had no DCFC, no meaningful number of charge/discharge cycles, that’s a lot of degradation.

To me, I think it means either charging/discharging, even DCFC, has a lesser role in battery degradation compared to just the passage of time, or there must be some Teslas/EVs out there that are 4-5+ years old that have incredible battery degradation, if you lose that much with just time passing before an owner can use and abuse it.

 

[JCHLi]

A true 'believer' will tell you how this is a 'genius' move AND how the year 2017 and the 12% are some hidden message from the great one telling them to take out a second mortgage and leverage themselves completely to buy more stock.

 

[coolshades]

A true 'believer' will tell you how this is a 'genius' move AND how the year 2017 and the 12% are some hidden message from the great one telling them to take out a second mortgage and leverage themselves completely to buy more stock.

Not stock. Dogecoin with which to pay the software subscriptions that Tesla will inevitably start.

I think it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Tesla will sell NFTs instead of the vehicles and declare,’there, that’s your new car. Go, enjoy it’

 

[JCHLi]

Aside from the Tesla business practices angle to this, what’s interesting is they think a battery would degrade up to 12% with the passage of 4-5 years.

I’m sure that’s inflated by the lawyers to make sure everyone gets roped in and for most of those cars probably it’s a lot less than 12%.

But still, assuming they kept those packs in storage around 50% charge, these batteries have had no DCFC, no meaningful number of charge/discharge cycles, that’s a lot of degradation.

To me, I think it means either charging/discharging, even DCFC, has a lesser role in battery degradation compared to just the passage of time, or there must be some Teslas/EVs out there that are 4-5+ years old that have incredible battery degradation, if you lose that much with just time passing before an owner can use and abuse it.

Yes, it does seem excessive for 12% capacity reduction in 4 years. My guess is it isn't because they decay that much, but rather, there was probably a reason these batteries weren't used in the first place. If expect a first in first out inventory system so why would a "new" battery from 2017 be sitting around.

Perhaps these were non-conforming batteries at the time, QC sets them off because they don't have enough capacity. Eventually someone in management sees them and thinks, "we could sell these". So they change the acceptance criteria and suddenly have more batteries for more cars.

 

[BMT1071]

I guess the big surprise is that they disclosed the info prior to selling the cars. ? ?

 

[Socalsp3]

10+ Mon wait for base teslas now makes MME wait time like a walk in the park

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