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The Lion Electric Co. started has an electric school bus manufacturing company, which many of them are circulating in the US mainly in California, yes the ones with the blue bumper, have just sold 10 of their new truck line Lion 6 to Amazon. They had also sold 50 Lion 8 to the CN Railway co. The Lion 8 line is an electric platform from which you can make a refusal truck or a utility truck. They are also working with an emergency vehicle company to develop an all electric ambulance.

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Pretty interesting from a School Board member perspective. Buses are a constant headache, and those busses get a LOT of miles. I wonder what the cost difference is.
 
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Pretty interesting from a School Board member perspective. Buses are a constant headache, and those busses get a LOT of miles. I wonder what the cost difference is.
Well from what I have read you are savings on gas or diesel and maintenance cost of course, just the same has an EV car. I live in a rural area and I see them around here even with our cold winter. Don't forget that buses stops regularly and thus regenerating a lot of their power. I believe the company specialist are going and analysing the needs of the school board or scholl bus companies.
 

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Well from what I have read you are savings on gas or diesel and maintenance cost of course, just the same has an EV car. I live in a rural area and I see them around here even with our cold winter. Don't forget that buses stops regularly and thus regenerating a lot of their power. I believe the company specialist are going and analysing the needs of the school board or scholl bus companies.
Granted, I get all that . . . just like car BEV's schools may be even SLOWER to accept this kind of change, and they will want to know it is from a reputable manufacturer. I wonder how big those packs are? Lots of room under that bus for a huge pack. I also wonder how districts that use them charge - bigger packs like that would require more power to charge overnight. DEFINITELY worth looking into though.
 


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Granted, I get all that . . . just like car BEV's schools may be even SLOWER to accept this kind of change, and they will want to know it is from a reputable manufacturer. I wonder how big those packs are? Lots of room under that bus for a huge pack. I also wonder how districts that use them charge - bigger packs like that would require more power to charge overnight. DEFINITELY worth looking into though.
I don't know exactly the name of the district that are using them in the US, but I am pretty sure the company will proudly make a pitch for you and or refer you to some of them, and yes to my knowledge they have a reputation of quality made vehicles. Has far has the pack is concern, I believe they have different size for different needs, according to a thorough analysis they make with their customer. Just contact them for more info, their site is probably not readable on the pics but here it is


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EDIT: BTW I did rode in one of them last year when I went to the Montreal Electric Auto Show, they used the Lion buses has shuttle bus between the parking lot and the sites of the show. I was sitting in front of it and was able to see the regen everytime the bus had to stop at a traffic light or just for traffic. People sitting in front were asking lot's of question about it and I can tell you that the driver was pretty proud and liked it a lot.
 
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School buses seem like nearly the perfect application for BEV. They usually only run for two short blocks of time each day. Maybe 2 hours in the morning, and 2 hours in the afternoon. Sitting in a parking lot the rest of the time. And on a fixed schedule. Ideal scenario for plugging in to charge for many hours between each predictable use.

Using them for field trips or sports team travel or other ad hoc uses could be a problem though, depending on whether it fits within the range and charging schedule.
 

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Yes and garbage trucks stopping at every houses are good application to.
I would guess the problem with garbage trucks are that they usually need to be used for far more hours per day than I assume one charge can handle. And I presume the batteries are very large to push that much weight, meaning a mid-day charging stop probably takes too long.

Even though the drive through the neighborhood is short, it has to keep going back and forth to the dump or transfer station, which can rack up the miles with literally tons of weight.
 

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I would guess the problem with garbage trucks are that they usually need to be used for far more hours per day than I assume one charge can handle. And I presume the batteries are very large to push that much weight, meaning a mid-day charging stop probably takes too long.

Even though the drive through the neighborhood is short, it has to keep going back and forth to the dump or transfer station, which can rack up the miles with literally tons of weight.
Mack LR Electric To Enter Production In Pennsylvania Next Year

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It's simply a better refuse truck that cuts noise pollution and can operate quietly.

Mack Trucks (part of Volvo Group) has announced that its first all-electric truck model, the Mack LR Electric refuse truck will enter production in 2021.
It will be manufactured at Mack’s Lehigh Valley Operations (LVO) in Macungie, Pennsylvania, along with other heavy-duty Mack trucks.

Martin Weissburg, president, Mack Trucks said: “Mack’s leadership in the refuse segment goes back more than a century, and we’re pleased to build on that heritage today by announcing the commercialization of the LR Electric model. This clean, quiet and powerful truck demonstrates the very best of Mack innovation and our people, and I couldn’t be more proud to announce our plans to build it.”

Order books will open in Q4 2020, while the customer deliveries are also scheduled for 2021, three years since the first prototype was announced in 2018.

The truck is equipped with Mack’s fully integrated electric powertrain with dual electric motor setup and four battery packs (NMC lithium-ion chemistry)

An important feature of an electric refuse truck is regenerative braking because the vehicle has to stop and accelerate hundreds of times per day. In the case of LR Electric, there is a special "three-mode regenerative braking system".

The EV version can be distinguished from other LR by having a copper (instead of gold) Bulldog mounted on the front of each truck.

"Like other LR models, the LR Electric may be fitted with equipment bodies from a number of manufacturers, allowing the customer to tailor the truck to their specific application. Customers will be able to choose from the same driver/passenger side driving configurations, seating choices and door options offered on the diesel-powered LR. In addition, minimal changes to the gauges and select switchgear were made, allowing Mack to carry over the ergonomic driver-designed LR cab."
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https://insideevs.com/news/444345/mack-lr-electric-to-enter-production-pennsylvania/

 

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Really like to see the specs for range/hours of use, and charging time. That would make all the difference in practicality.

The one guy questioned whether it might be just 1, 2, or 4 hours. Seems like all of those would be a problem, unless willing to spend for twice as many trucks.
 
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Of course The Lion Electric Company is a small player compare to Mack or Mercedes or Ford has they probably will produce EV trucks eventually, but I believe they have their place on that market, and the environment is the big winner. :)
 

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Really like to see the specs for range/hours of use, and charging time. That would make all the difference in practicality.

The one guy questioned whether it might be just 1, 2, or 4 hours. Seems like all of those would be a problem, unless willing to spend for twice as many trucks.
If you watch their videos at
https://www.macktrucks.com/trucks/lr-series/lr-electric/
they are clearly working with the customers to deliver what is needed -- and NY won't accept having to buy twice as many trucks. The needs are not that different from a number of places already using all-electric buses that have the range to go all day and high-speed charging to keep some models in service 24 hours a day:
https://www.sustainable-bus.com/ele...-transport-main-fleets-projects-around-world/
 

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Mack LR Electric To Enter Production In Pennsylvania Next Year
so, a Mack-E being discussed on a Mach-E site. I bet with the right accent you could easily confuse those two.
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