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2 tips that I always do is #1 stay on top of your tire pressure .Proper pressure keeps the car rolling easily . Not sure how much that actually helps but we need every last mile in winter .
#2 go into the cars "Vehicle " menu and reset the "EV Driving History" . That will get you back to the EPA range and will allow a better estimate on the GOM during the winter.
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We also highly recommend the highest level of electricity for better efficiency and also to avoid those unnecessary knocks and pings?
I recommend this often to my recent adopter friends! I find I get more range out of EVGO fill-ups than either Supercharger or Electrify America fill-ups, and ChargePoint seems to have too many negative ions in their electricity. Alway stick with the top-tier providers. Your flux capacitors will last longer and your field windings will burn cleaner (less carbon emissions)!
 

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What's really sad is that a percentage of people believe this stuff, saying they get more range charging level 2 vs. fast charging, or vice versa. It's pretty scary.
 


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This is my second winter with my 2023 mme GT. Last winter, my range at 80% charge was around 180 miles. Today, ambient weather in the mid 20s, I had a range of 160 at 80% when I left the house. I drove a 12 mile round trip and used 30 miles of range. Can someone suggest what's going on? Did the battery really deteriorate that much in one year?
Charge it to 100%, and reset your driving history.
 

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This is my second winter with my 2023 mme GT. Last winter, my range at 80% charge was around 180 miles. Today, ambient weather in the mid 20s, I had a range of 160 at 80% when I left the house. I drove a 12 mile round trip and used 30 miles of range. Can someone suggest what's going on? Did the battery really deteriorate that much in one year?
When my 2024 Premium 4-xt was new in August, my 100% range was 303 miles. Throughout the warm weather the guessometer implied range (‘IR’; displayed Range divided by percentage shown) was always in the 295-302 range. Now I am just shy of 1,900 miles but the temperature has dipped into the mid-20’s at night and into the thirties during the day. My IR now is as low as 232 miles! I think this is entirely temperature related as I have not changed my driving settings (Whisper) or style, a 20+% drop! But hey, that’s precisely why I got the extended range battery. I expect it to return to higher numbers this coming summer.
 

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Yes, I did. In the 2012 Mustang GT convertible that I owned, I would go from 20 miles a gallon in summer to 19 miles a gallon in winter. So not much of a variance
Yep, the variance is much greater in an EV than it is in a gas car. Not only do the batteries use more power when they're cold, electric cabin heating drains even more. Cabin heating in a gas car is basically "free" because burning fuel creates excess heat. But in an EV, it's like plugging in a space heater. It's really a double-hit when it gets much below 40F.

Also, the range display (GOM) tends to be off further in an EV too. It may display 160 miles but more likely you could probably still get 200+ on an actual drive, and gradually correct along the way. They tend to be too smart for their own good. Little things make a bigger difference, and then when they project that out for the remaining battery it tends to exaggerate the variance.
 

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this will cure the lower range in the cold? :)
No. It just stops people from asking where their range went.

It's the same as if I tell you to write the range you want on a Post-It note, and put it over the range display. You're happy, we're happy, nothing's happened though.
 

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This is my second winter with my 2023 mme GT. Last winter, my range at 80% charge was around 180 miles. Today, ambient weather in the mid 20s, I had a range of 160 at 80% when I left the house. I drove a 12 mile round trip and used 30 miles of range. Can someone suggest what's going on? Did the battery really deteriorate that much in one year?
I'm questioning the same as the range has dropped about 10-20% from last winter. I changed tires with Goodyear Electric Drive and over the summer the range seemed less. Tires, battery? I'm going to take it to Ford and have them check battery health.
 

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I'm questioning the same as the range has dropped about 10-20% from last winter. I changed tires with Goodyear Electric Drive and over the summer the range seemed less. Tires, battery? I'm going to take it to Ford and have them check battery health.
The range... or the range display?

Those are different things. Range is how far you can actually drive. The range display is just a rough estimate of how far it thinks you can go based on a number of variables and assumptions. Thus why it's sarcastically referred to as the Guess-O-Meter.
 

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The range... or the range display?

Those are different things. Range is how far you can actually drive. The range display is just a rough estimate of how far it thinks you can go based on a number of variables and assumptions. Thus why it's sarcastically referred to as the Guess-O-Meter.
Wait, so the range displayed isn't the actual range I will achieve? ?
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