Stock Prem shock dimensions?

[azerik]

Hey, hoping someone might have a stock rear (non-gtpe) shock sitting around that could get me the eyelet internal dimension (bolt hole) and the stud dimension. It'd also be nice to know the eyelet bushing width incase I needed to have bushing spacers made as well.

From what I gather the stock Prem AWD ride height for the rear shock is 19 inches (but I'm ballparking because I can't see inside the mount, nor do I understand how that mount actually works) from middle of the top mount bolts to middle of the eyelet bolt.

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[ElectrikPony]

I am installing new coil-overs on a GT non-PE 22’ . When I get the original take offs inn my hand I can measure them for you.

Mira going to be a few weeks.

 

[21st Century Pony]

Hey, hoping someone might have a stock rear (non-gtpe) shock sitting around that could get me the eyelet internal dimension (bolt hole) and the stud dimension. It'd also be nice to know the eyelet bushing width incase I needed to have bushing spacers made as well.

From what I gather the stock Prem AWD ride height for the rear shock is 19 inches (but I'm ballparking because I can't see inside the mount, nor do I understand how that mount actually works) from middle of the top mount bolts to middle of the eyelet bolt.

I'm out of state now but when I get back to Virginia on / about 01 March I can send you any measurement you'd like on my set of OEM shocks now resting in the shed. 2022 Premium AWD ER.

 

[azerik]

Turns out you can see the bottom of the mount if you just pull down the shock cover thing. I also was able to pop the nut cover off and see the shaft being 11mm below the mount and 6 mm above. I’d figure a hole inside of 8 or 9mm in the upper mount.
I’m going to get a set of prebuilt QA1 dual adjustable shocks for the rear. Not cheap at near $300 each but ford wants $150+ for the stock shock. I’m also going to work with them on a possible non-adjustable for the rear. They build coil overs as well but I really didn’t want to head down that route. But for the right price ?

 

[azerik]

I ordered a pair of TS-903's from Summit. If they make it here this weekend I'll get to work on them.

I spoke with QA1 for quite a bit as the application for these is different that it was for my Lightning. I had dual adjust on that truck and it was fantastic to be able to set up for drag racing in a couple clicks and be ready to drive home on the street just as fast. I don't forsee the need for duals on the MME as I think the rebound adjustment isn't going to be so important to justify another $100 a shock. Weighed this a bunch this week and as the MME hits the dealer next week thy might come back and hit me with an unexpected repair bill for something (that I'll fight of corse). I'm attempting to conquer Chandlers incredibly shit roads. Currently no plans on the front other than trimming the bump stop (can be done on non-gtpe's) possibly with the struts in the car. If I can figure this out I'll write that up as well. I figure the strut boot should be pullable to the point I can get at the bump stop, but wont know till this sinus infuqtion gets better.

I think there will be a small bit of modding needed. The singles adjust compression and rebound on the same click so they're the same setting for compression and rebound. I plan on trimming the stock bump stop and modding that to be slightly progressive as well. I'll do a write up putting them in and maybe Mach-Lee or MarkBoris don't beat me to it.

These shocks are dual tube oil only, meaning no gas. They're one rate through the whole stroke as well. Thought here is by trimming the bump stop (the drop spring co's are requiring it so there's room to do so) and gaining another 1/2 to inch or a little more the car wont be bouncing off the bumpstops constantly (if you have crap roads, expansion joints or the oh so fun dips Phoenix installs on the HOV lane interchanges in order to try to put you into the wall). These are also warrantied for life but repair service times of 2 to 4 weeks might justify a backup shock if you ever needed to send one in. On my truck I never hurt one, and they went through these streets with 22 inch billet wheels and rubber band tires and pull 12's on them too. Damn I miss that truck.

 

[markboris]

I don’t plan on changing shocks at this time. The magnerides are ok for now and I did remove 3/4” of the bump stop on the rears as H&R suggested after installing their lowering springs even though I didn’t notice them bottoming out before I cut them. If Bilstien ever comes out with replacement shocks I’ll be first on their list (I hope).

On another note, I have both the premium and GTPE rear shocks up in my attic and they are identical as far as mount and size. Unfortunately I’m on a flight to Phoenix right now and won’t be back home until Monday to get you any dimensions you might need.

 

[azerik]

Wow the shocks are a couple stops away. They almost landed before you did lol. I bought them yesterday around 2pm.

 

[azerik]

Welp, I pulled one of my rears off and took a couple measurements. Realized I'm going to lose the car on Wednesday to the dealer for a while so i took some measurements and tossed it all back together. About 3 minutes ago realized I didn't get the ID of the lower eyelet. Which was the ENTIRE point of pulling it off anyway. I got 4 of the 5 I wanted/needed. This is why you don't work on cars when you're sick

What isn't obvious in the pic but is if you put the shock on backwards is the lower eyelet on the stock shock is cocked about 8 degrees. It might be the rubber that they put in there to make up for tolerances but I put the bottom in opposite the way it came out and the top mount was off by an inch or so.

Edit, I remember why I didn't measure the ID. The QA1 is 14mm, next step down is 1/2 or 12mm. one of those will work. But if someone was to confirm tha'td be great. The bigger 'problem' is the sleeve bushing is 2.46mm wide. 2.5 might fit but that size is really uncommon.

 

[mikenindorf]

Hi.
I have a 21 premium AWD. Is there a way to make the day to day drive a little smoother? I will never race the car. I have been looking at progressive springs? Do they work well? Will new shocks be needed?

I have read the the magna ride shocks give superb ride, but will they fit/work on my not GT? As the car will not be raced, seems the normal setting would be ideal.
Thank you.
Mike

 

[azerik]

That's what I'm in the process of working on. Magnaride is not an aftermarket option as it would cost you $600+ per shock, plus a controller plus the additional electronic and it still wouldn't be the same as a GTPE. I think Magnaride on the GTPE was coined at around $7k or $8k?

If I can get these shocks to a point where they show a marked improvement I'll put all the info out there so it's just a shack swap. Currently I'm only working on the rear as the front will be much harder to do.

Progressive springs won't help much as they're really just stiffening the ride. The stock shock isn't very strong. I can compress mine with little more than 50lbs of pressure. On our Prem AWD's there is only 1.5 inches of compression before it hits the bumpstop. Thankfully the bump stop is actually pretty soft in the first part of it. How much it rides into the nearly 4 inch long bump stop I can't see with the cover on it. My plan is to get some more travel on the rear before the bump stop and limit it's overall movement via adjustable shocks. The shocks I'm using have 18 levels of dampening. The single adjustable adjust compression and rebound at the same level. $100 more per shock and rebound is adjustable separately. I ay go that route if the single adjustment doesn't cut it, or I get bored and just need to put the car on jack stands and spend money.

Sometime down the road i plan on replacing the terrible tires. Currently the prem wheels at 35psi cold are doing pretty well with the terrible roads around here. I still get the bounce, and all the noise but swapping to Hypertrac tires in the future is on the road map. I'm wanting to get 20 inch wheels though, but will still be on the hypertrac tires most likely.

I have a dealer APPT tomorrow for a bunch of other things so I might be without my car for a week to month(s). We'll see. I have gone and gotten the shock spacer to fit as the supplied are about an inch too short for this application.

 

[markboris]

Erik, I did measure the ID of the rear lower shock tube and got 11.7mm so very close to 12mm like you said it might be.

I'm kind of doing a similar thing as you are and working on finding shocks that fit the rear and see if I can get the ride any better (less bounce for people without the magneride shocks). I've got a non adjustable Bilstein B6 and Viking dual adjustable rear shock coming Friday and going to test fit. If all goes well, I need to meet up with someone that has the bounce and Anton in Fresno might be my first stop. I am tired of waiting for these companies to come out with a shock for the Mach-E and I think the rear has more issues than the front so I am starting there. I talked to DSC Sport yesterday and they have decided NOT to develop a controller for the Mach-E like they do for many other cars with active suspension. I wasn't happy about this but it is what it is.

 

[azerik]

Mine is down for 'at least a week and a half'. I'm leaning towards 2 to 3 weeks. Service guy didn't balk about having the sway bars on still this time so maybe the techs wont.

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