Stop driving your EV immediately

[DennisD]

Reread the original statement I was commenting on ? I don't believe I made any comments whether solar panels themselves produce pollution.

Not to be pedantic (ok, to be pedantic ?) having your own solar doesn’t mean that your EV doesn’t pollute at the source of power generation. Where were all the components sourced from and how was the power at those sources generated? How were those components transported? ?

I actually did read your statement correctly and the example that you use is quite "pedantic" as you implied but is not always true my friend. ?

If I were to purchase a home with an existing Solar System, (because I didn't transport the panels nor produce said panels) I am producing power without polluting and never did pollute. The person that originally bought the panels (in your own little world) did in effect "pollute" but the person that purchased the home after the fact is not. And to just put a fine point on it, the Solar Panels that are in use are not currently polluting either.

If we used your definition of "polluting", it would be impossible to EVER make a statement of not polluting if we were to always use the past people that polluted. Btw, if you eat you can never make the statement that you don't pollute. There is a good chance that something you ate or the utensils that you used, polluted through transportation of said product. Even if you grow your own garden, you are polluting in using your definition.

The only real problem that I see in making statements like that is that it gives the right leaning people that don't believe in Solar generation an excuse for why we should not invest in Solar Technology. Yes, on the technical end you are correct but by said definition (your own words by the way) your statement seems to fit. "Pedantic means "like a pedant," someone who's too concerned with literal accuracy or formality. It's a negative term that implies someone is showing off book learning or trivia, especially in a tiresome way. "

Solar Panels don't pollute. You are speculating on how ALL panels were produced and delivered and you really are guessing.

That is also a "pedantic" statement and I meant for it to be pedantic to prove my point correct. The purchaser of said panels may be totally innocent of polluting. ?

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[A-A-Ron]

Coil or coal?

Well, technically, the EV's are "Coil" ?

 

[A-A-Ron]

I’m known to create click bait posts.

Indeed, he is a master baiter

I'm just gonna walk away before I get banned

 

[SpeedRacer72]

All you guys with your coal burning cars are causing all of this.

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/01/1215141574/antarctica-iceberg-a23a-location

It's more likely caused by all the keyboard warriors with their petroleum based plastic keyboards

I am sure the otterbox cases on their iphones are made from faux Otter skin and not petroleum based plastics.
I am sure all the precious metals and minerals that were used to make the electrical components in their computers & iPhones were not strip mined using large diesel powered machinery

At least I know the chemicals in my EV battery were mined using little kids in africa that barely emit any CO2. Not like the enormous diesel pollution machines used in other countries, so I can feel good about that.

I am sure all the plastic components on my Mach-E are not made from petroleum, but rather they are made from sustainable french fry oil (sorry vegans, those vegetables were murdered for a very important cause)

And I know for a fact that the tires on my EV are made from sustainable unicorn dung and not from petroleum.

 

[Jimrpa]

I actually did read your statement correctly and the example that you use is quite "pedantic" as you implied but is not always true my friend. ?

If I were to purchase a home with an existing Solar System, (because I didn't transport the panels nor produce said panels) I am producing power without polluting and never did pollute. The person that originally bought the panels (in your own little world) did in effect "pollute" but the person that purchased the home after the fact is not. And to just put a fine point on it, the Solar Panels that are in use are not currently polluting either.

If we used your definition of "polluting", it would be impossible to EVER make a statement of not polluting if we were to always use the past people that polluted. Btw, if you eat you can never make the statement that you don't pollute. There is a good chance that something you ate or the utensils that you used, polluted through transportation of said product. Even if you grow your own garden, you are polluting in using your definition.

The only real problem that I see in making statements like that is that it gives the right leaning people that don't believe in Solar generation an excuse for why we should not invest in Solar Technology. Yes, on the technical end you are correct but by said definition (your own words by the way) your statement seems to fit. "Pedantic means "like a pedant," someone who's too concerned with literal accuracy or formality. It's a negative term that implies someone is showing off book learning or trivia, especially in a tiresome way. "

Solar Panels don't pollute. You are speculating on how ALL panels were produced and delivered and you really are guessing.

That is also a "pedantic" statement and I meant for it to be pedantic to prove my point correct. The purchaser of said panels may be totally innocent of polluting. ?

You’re totally correct and I worded my statement somewhat poorly. I was looking at the “solar” from a system/lifecycle perspective. If I have an installed solar system at my home, that system does not “pollute” (to the best of my knowledge) when it generates electricity. If I look at the “solar” from a systems/lifecycle perspective, there are processes in the manufacture, transportation, installation, and ultimate disposal of the system, that may generate “pollution”. That is what I was getting at ?

 

[DennisD]

You’re totally correct and I worded my statement somewhat poorly. I was looking at the “solar” from a system/lifecycle perspective. If I have an installed solar system at my home, that system does not “pollute” (to the best of my knowledge) when it generates electricity. If I look at the “solar” from a systems/lifecycle perspective, there are processes in the manufacture, transportation, installation, and ultimate disposal of the system, that may generate “pollution”. That is what I was getting at ?

Wow. You really are getting into the "weeds" in finding how they can potentially pollute.

I officially give up. It is impossible to have anything exist without causing some form of pollution.

I would type more in my response but I don't want to cause more pollution.

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