Testing Tesla SuperChargers with the J3400 to CCS1 adapter

[Rt1AWD]

0.63 is a good rate. Slightly higher then EA, but still a very reasonable price for availability and reliability

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[21st Century Pony]

Why wouldn't you always use Plug 'n Charge when available on given network? (EA, EVgo, Tesla(now). etc.) Like the name implies......Plug in, endpoints handshake, charging commences, transaction settlement if required goes to a predefined credit card. Easy Peasy, as they say.

Because of the difference over time in $$$ in your wallet.

 

[Gloff]

While having lunch with a co-worker today, we talked about Tesla SC as he has a TM3.

He showed me his rates if he were to charge today and his rate was about $0.20 LESS than my rate - both of us using the Tesla app.

So even though I may pay $0.63/kWh, my co-worker's Tesla will be at $0.45/kWh.

Guess if I really needed a charge, I'd go to Tesla....

This is Ford/Tesla rate:

If you subscribe to the membership ($13/m) you get the Tesla rate. So if you DCFC at least 81kwh/month the subscription makes a difference.

 

[Gloff]

0.63 is a good rate. Slightly higher then EA, but still a very reasonable price for availability and reliability

That's also at Peak time, off peak can be as low as $0.47/kwh ($0.32/kwh if you're a member)

 

[Gloff]

He has been an unpaid and unofficial ambassador for Ford EV's and extremely helpful here for years, so yes he was asked to be one of the early testers for the adapter. A well deserved opportunity IMHO.


They'll figure something out.

They haven't for regular J1772 connectors. BMW's design is pretty clever, it has a little pin that stops the release from moving up.

 

[timbop]

While having lunch with a co-worker today, we talked about Tesla SC as he has a TM3.

He showed me his rates if he were to charge today and his rate was about $0.20 LESS than my rate - both of us using the Tesla app.

So even though I may pay $0.63/kWh, my co-worker's Tesla will be at $0.45/kWh.

Guess if I really needed a charge, I'd go to Tesla....

This is Ford/Tesla rate:

You knew there'd be a catch, right? I had no doubts that we would pay higher rates. Elon has many flaws but squeezing money out of people is one of his gifts. As @Rt1AWD said it's a reasonable upcharge for reliability and availability.

0.63 is a good rate. Slightly higher then EA, but still a very reasonable price for availability and reliability

yup

 

[4sallypat]

You knew there'd be a catch, right? I had no doubts that we would pay higher rates. Elon has many flaws but squeezing money out of people is one of his gifts. As @Rt1AWD said it's a reasonable upcharge for reliability and availability.


yup

Agree!

The rate is not too bad - my EVGo rate is about the same.

I really thought Elon would "penalize" us with $1.00 per kWh charge....

Guess it's not too bad...

 

[Rt1AWD]

You knew there'd be a catch, right?

I don't even consider it a catch. It was absolutely expected otherwise what's in it for Tesla. I just hoped he wouldn't go too far with price difference

 

[timbop]

Guess it's not too bad...

I just hoped he wouldn't go too far with price difference

Let's just hope he doesn't think like a drug dealer and really jack up the price after we're hooked ?

 

[Rt1AWD]

Let's just hope he doesn't think like a drug dealer and really jack up the price after we're hooked ?

That would have a bit of an antitrust issue smell. I don't think he is looking forward to go there. ?

 

[RickMachE]

Why wouldn't you always use Plug 'n Charge when available on given network? (EA, EVgo, Tesla(now). etc.) Like the name implies......Plug in, endpoints handshake, charging commences, transaction settlement if required goes to a predefined credit card. Easy Peasy, as they say.

1) EA Pass+ is 25% cheaper.
2) Ford is not an EV charging provider, so you get at best 2% back on a credit card. Costco Visa gives 4% for EV charging, at EA, EVgo, etc. So now 26.5% cheaper than Plug and Charge.

0.63 is a good rate. Slightly higher then EA, but still a very reasonable price for availability and reliability

Very location specific. And EA with Pass+ never exceeds 48 cents that I have seen. Most EA stations aren't 64 cents before Pass+ discount.

 

[Rt1AWD]

1) EA Pass+ is 25% cheaper.

That's a discounted price. I'm trying to compare apples to apples

2) Ford is not an EV charging provider, so you get at best 2% back on a credit card. Costco Visa gives 4% for EV charging, at EA, EVgo, etc. So now 26.5% cheaper than Plug and Charge.

Too much hassle and mental efforts to think about those microscopic savings

2) Ford is not an EV charging


Very location specific. And EA with Pass+ never exceeds 48 cents that I have seen. Most EA stations aren't 64 cents before Pass+ discount.

That is what I said: slightly higher

 

[RickMachE]

That's a discounted price. I'm trying to compare apples to apples



Too much hassle and mental efforts to think about those microscopic savings



That is what I said: slightly higher

Three 20 to 80% charges. .6 x 91 x 3 = 164kWh.

164 x .64 = $104.96.

With Pass+, cost is $104.96 x .75 = $78.72 + $7 = $85.72, savings of $19.24.

A BONUS is using the right credit card with EA and saving another 2% or $1.57 for no work.

 

[Rt1AWD]

Three 20 to 80% charges. .6 x 91 x 3 = 164kWh.

164 x .64 = $104.96.

With Pass+, cost is $104.96 x .75 = $78.72 + $7 = $85.72, savings of $19.24.

A BONUS is using the right credit card with EA and saving another 2% or $1.57 for no work.

I thought Tesla offers membership discounts too

 

[david_quick]

I’ll test it tomorrow.

Did you get a chance to test? Is the manual correct?

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