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[Mach1E]

The comment was about technology improvements and efficiency, making older vehicles obsolete.

Bigger motors and batteries? Yes.

But it’s basically the same tech and efficiency. In fact the 2013 is probably more efficient than that plaid.

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[E90alex]

What significant improvement do we see in a 2025 Tesla Model S that didn’t exist in 2013?

Over a decade and it’s basically the same tech.

The thermal management with heat pump and octovalve is much more efficient than the old PTC heater.

Infotainment computer is significantly faster. Old system was so slow and barely usable in today’s age.

Completely new central electronic architecture more like Model 3/Y. Old one was more like other cars with dozens of distributed computer modules everywhere.

2013 Model S had zero drivers assistance features. Only regular dumb cruise control. 2025 of course is capable of FSD. Regardless of what you think of FSD, it’s certainly an improvement over nothing.

Improvements in power output, motor efficiency and battery density. The original dual motor non performance 90D model had a rated range of 288 miles. The current Long Range model which has a 95kWh battery is rated for 405.

They’re definitely not the same car with the same tech, despite still having the same body.

 

[Mach1E]

The thermal management with heat pump and octovalve is much more efficient than the old PTC heater.

Infotainment computer is significantly faster. Old system was so slow and barely usable in today’s age.

Completely new central electronic architecture more like Model 3/Y. Old one was more like other cars with dozens of distributed computer modules everywhere.

2013 Model S had zero drivers assistance features. Only regular dumb cruise control. 2025 of course is capable of FSD. Regardless of what you think of FSD, it’s certainly an improvement over nothing.

Improvements in power output, motor efficiency and battery density. The original dual motor non performance 90D model had a rated range of 288 miles. The current Long Range model which has a 95kWh battery is rated for 405.

They’re definitely not the same car with the same tech, despite still having the same body.

Sorry, but I see this very differently.

None of that is significantly different. Some isn’t even “new tech.” Heat pump? Those existed well before 2013.

The argument was made that there are “20-30% efficiency gains year over year” and that the older models are “obsolete in a few years.”

I’m not seeing any evidence to back up these claims.

Instead it’s just incremental gains, kinda like what we see in gas powered cars, as shown in your examples above.

Compare the tech and efficiency in a 2013 gas powered car to a 2025 and you’ll see a similar progression.

 

[devmach-e]

The thermal management with heat pump and octovalve is much more efficient than the old PTC heater.

Infotainment computer is significantly faster. Old system was so slow and barely usable in today’s age.

Completely new central electronic architecture more like Model 3/Y. Old one was more like other cars with dozens of distributed computer modules everywhere.

2013 Model S had zero drivers assistance features. Only regular dumb cruise control. 2025 of course is capable of FSD. Regardless of what you think of FSD, it’s certainly an improvement over nothing.

Improvements in power output, motor efficiency and battery density. The original dual motor non performance 90D model had a rated range of 288 miles. The current Long Range model which has a 95kWh battery is rated for 405.

They’re definitely not the same car with the same tech, despite still having the same body.

A lot of what you point out are mostly incremental improvements to the car. Which is normal in the industry as new features are rolled out in-between generations of a model. My 2nd generation Prius lacked a lot of what the current Prius generation has. But it is still a Prius and still functions the same way. Still gets people where they need to go, just maybe not with as many bells and whistles.

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