Too Bad BMW is getting this first.

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Hopefully here within 10 years we see solid state battery's become affordable/mass production. I don't believe that's what these are but that's what being claimed for range and charging speed being just a few minutes.
 

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The article is long on rhetoric and short on details. Seems like an evolutionary battery and not a breakthrough.
 

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There have been articles predicting the next battery/solar breakthrough being just around the corner for over a decade.

I'm withholding all excitement until something is actually for sale.
 

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No, this is actually cool.

I would not assume BMW will ship those batteries first. A company I used to work with took money from BMW iVentures also, and they have no exclusivity agreement, and the battery company is in Michigan. Ford has been talking LFP for a while, could be through these cats. Just having the tech in michigan will help michigan based companies, eg, ford and chevy.

These are LFP batteries, which are the coming thing. LFP has the ability to charge faster and with less battery wear. Besides being the first non-Chinese manufacturer of LFP, they seem to be claiming higher energy densities. LFP is assumed to be about half the energy density as NCA, based on the Chinese batteries (like BYD's blade, which I read tesla is considering for european cars?). LFP chemistry is in large scale production, just not by any non-chinese company. Which either means the exact chemistry BYD uses has a 4x improvement available, or the company is proposing increasing battery weight about 4x, or they are .... lying. Sorry, got to put that on the table, we've had a lot of ... lying... from EV manufacturers, *cough* *tesla* *cough* *cough* but not the only one (remember fiskar?), and we just don't know if this company is shennigans or on the up and up. [4x higher compared to existing known shipping LFP, aka 2x higher than current shipping NCA]

It wouldn't surprise me they get to production and they're not 2x higher than NCA in energy density. Would love a surprise though.

We've all been waiting for new chemistries, and getting a car with shorter range and much faster charges is something I would add to my fleet after something of the current tech, for "around town" use, especially if the battery tech was shown to be 10++ year capable.
 
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Isn't the solid state battery design from Toyota ?
Toyota have been working on a solid state battery for several years, but the design is not 'from' them. There are multiple start ups at various states of progress in bringing their designs to market, but thus far none have commercialized production (obviously).
 

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Whenever I see these articles or youtubers posting about some futuristic battery/solar tech, my eyes just glaze over. I think I'm in the mode of, until it comes out like next year, I have doubts and for me at least, simply just don't care about it. I'll let the scientists do their thing and not research/read up on it yet. Anyone else the same?

Maybe in 5+ years or whenever when we get another EV, I'll read up more, but just mind block anything which sounds like it's not coming anytime soon or is prohibitably expensive (like that nuclear fusion thing that was just reported).
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