This Is getting really bad

[heisnuts]

Ford and software ???

That means it will be coming "soon"

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[dtbaker61]

Some of the casinos advertise chargers. The first one we tried was level 2, and the valet had to do it. A couple of hours only got us a 10% boost. The next casino that we tried on a different day had three. All of them were taken, Tesla's plugged into all of them. As we were leaving that casino, a guy with a BMW i3 had found a 110v wall socket on the parking garage wall and was using that to charge.

Thank god, I can charge at home for free on a level 2.

dude, they WANT you INSIDE the casino for as long as possible.

 

[RedStallion]

Range extender?

 

[Mach-Lee]

I took a 500 mile trip yesterday and needed to recharge to complete the trip. I found a mall that had 8 chargers for ev's so I pulled in. I plugged into three that did not work and the only ones that did were level 3 and I would have had to sit there for 8 hours. I drove to another mall that had a evgo fast charger but there was a plugged in car and one behind it. I pulled up as third in line and after an hour the car in front of me got tired of waiting and left so I pulled up to the #2 spot. No one was in the car plugged in and it was finished charging. What do I do ? About an hour and a half later the driver of the plugged in car returned with numerous shopping bags, unplugged and left. I plugged in and charged for 30 minutes to make the trip home. All this time there were at least 10 Testa rapid charger available....and 5 more being used. Just my rant but when will we be able to Tesla charge ? good Lord.......it's taking longer to design an adapter then it did to design the vehicle

Wow, I know this is controversial, but as soon as I saw they were finished charging, I would have unplugged them and taken the charger. And said something when they got back. Can't believe you waited that long.

 

[George Knighton]

The reason the Tesla "NACS" thing is going to work is because Tesla switched to CCS protocols sometime the past couple of years. All newer Tesla superchargers are just CCS with a different charging handle.

My question is, how many older supercharger stations are around that are not CCS protocols?

Even when this goes live, I suspect that not all supercharger stations will be available to cars that use CCS protocols.

 

[thekat03]

The reason the Tesla "NACS" thing is going to work is because Tesla switched to CCS protocols sometime the past couple of years. All newer Tesla superchargers are just CCS with a different charging handle.

My question is, how many older supercharger stations are around that are not CCS protocols?

Even when this goes live, I suspect that not all supercharger stations will be available to cars that use CCS protocols.

The version 2 superchargers cannot be converted to CCS protocols. That's why it's only the version 3 and version 4 superchargers, and they're in the process of converting them now. That's probably more of the delay than designing an adapter.

 

[Jeff-NoVA]

Ford and software ???

Exactly, Ford will “release” the update in Spring 2024, it will be pushed out to our cars in October 2026 with cryptic release notes that nobody understands.

 

[SolarAB]

Tesla SuperChargers were announced for Spring 2024. Pretty clear. It's not just an adapter, it's integration with the Ford software.

Very curious to see how good Tesla is a integrating with dozens of different vehicle software programs and if they will be any better than other charging networks. I anticipate it's hard to do.

 

[RickMachE]

The reason the Tesla "NACS" thing is going to work is because Tesla switched to CCS protocols sometime the past couple of years. All newer Tesla superchargers are just CCS with a different charging handle.

My question is, how many older supercharger stations are around that are not CCS protocols?

Even when this goes live, I suspect that not all supercharger stations will be available to cars that use CCS protocols.

15,000 are going live in Spring 2024.

 

[RickMachE]

Very curious to see how good Tesla is a integrating with dozens of different vehicle software programs and if they will be any better than other charging networks. I anticipate it's hard to do.

I agree. I expect a bunch of "gee, I thought Tesla's network had more uptime than everyone else".

A poster on FB yesterday went to a Tesla Magic Dock location and multiple chargers were broken, some apparently for some time... *GASP* "No, that's not possible!"

 

[thekat03]

I agree. I expect a bunch of "gee, I thought Tesla's network had more uptime than everyone else".

A poster on FB yesterday went to a Tesla Magic Dock location and multiple chargers were broken, some apparently for some time... *GASP* "No, that's not possible!"

I am mostly looking forward to the access to superchargers because it may reduce wait times and wear and tear on the CCS1 chargers by spreading use out more.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Very curious to see how good Tesla is a integrating with dozens of different vehicle software programs and if they will be any better than other charging networks. I anticipate it's hard to do.

Yup, it’ll be “interesting .”

For those wondering about the adapters, the process is more than design and build. Functional prototypes need to be built and tested both in controlled environments and in the field. The largest bit of work will be with software to enable plug and charge system wide at all V3 and V4 superchargers. Until all of those are done to satisfaction, the adapters won’t be available.

 

[superdave80]

I agree. I expect a bunch of "gee, I thought Tesla's network had more uptime than everyone else".

A poster on FB yesterday went to a Tesla Magic Dock location and multiple chargers were broken, some apparently for some time... *GASP* "No, that's not possible!"

Even if Tesla had the same failure rate as other CCS, the fact that they put dozen(s) of charges at a location would mask most of this problem. Six out of twelve chargers broken doesn't look as bad as two out of four chargers broken, even though it is the same rate.

 

[superdave80]

Yup, it’ll be “interesting .”

For those wondering about the adapters, the process is more than design and build. Functional prototypes need to be built and tested both in controlled environments and in the field. The largest bit of work will be with software to enable plug and charge system wide at all V3 and V4 superchargers. Until all of those are done to satisfaction, the adapters won’t be available.

Wasn't testing CCS cars/adapters the purpose of the 'Magic Docks'? Seems like it would be the same setup, but we would just each get our own adapter to carry around rather than having them locked to the charger.

 

[PonyTail]

In our cross country trip experience this Summer, Las Vegas and the LA Basin are BY FAR the worst areas currently for DCFC.

I was also surprised Vegas wasn't better. We stayed at the mirage and they had one Tesla and two other chargers in their garage. Both of mine were busy. I was able to go next door to the forum shops and they had plenty over there. On the way there, tried to top off at stateline and even though plug share said there were eight chargers there, they were at the outlet mall which is closed and the chargers have spider webs.

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