Two weird things changed without an OTA. Anyone else know what’s happened?

[corradoborg]

Never saw one that said the car could throttle, but that would be a nice feature.

The link I had from Ford website said that the Ford chargers rate could be set from the Ford Pass app. https://www.ford.com/support/how-to...ge-the-charge-rate-of-my-ford-charge-station/
This page has changed slightly since my conversation with BEV team in May. It used to have screenshots of the screens as it walked through setting the charge rate.

Ah, I thought you were saying there was a claim that the Mach-E itself could set charge rate.
Your confusion lies in assuming that “Ford Charge Station” refers to the Ford Mobile Charging Cord. While both are Ford-branded EVSEs, I believe “Ford Charge Station” only refers to a permanently wall-mounted unit such as the Ford Connected Charge Station or the Ford Charge Station Pro.

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[JohnFoxeSheets]

Huh, didn't know that 6.8 wasn't what I was drawing, so now I'm concerned.

We have a couple bids to remodel the garage which include upgrading the insulation so it stays more in the 60 - 80 degree range, adding a heat pump for when it isn't 60- 80, and adding a 60A EV charging circuit plus better storage and lighting - generally making it into a man cave for me and my small collection of vintage Fords (57 T-bird, Cougar XR7 convertible, '04 Mustang Cobra, etc). But honestly it hadn't been a priority. (or, maybe more accurately, wasn't my wife's priority).

So you're saying I can get my man cave with the justification of safely charging my wife's new car? LOVE IT!!

Enjoy your man cave, but please call an electrician in the interim. You don’t want to burn down the house as you plan for your palace.

 

[Zardoz]

It's safe to charge to 100% on L2. I do that at home.

For travels, I always charge to 100% on L3 (DCFC) as I don't know if I will need the extra charge on distances.

It is safe to charge to 100% on L2, but Ford recommends stopping at 90% unless you need the extra range that last 10% can get you. Like for a trip or if you have a long commute. Personally I don't regularly need that range and don't charge past 85% often.

 

[Zardoz]

My icon was different, more like graphic depicting equalizer settings, but I found the preset rows setting and I'm back to 5 rows. Thanks to you and @AliRafiee Still I have no clue as to why it changed by itself...

There was an old bug that caused the radio presets to be reset to defaults. I thought it had been fixed with an update awhile ago and there is no chance your 2024 has software old enough to still have that bug.

I would take a photo of your presets 'just in cast' you lose them again.

 

[iam-s-Hon]

It's safe to charge to 100% on L2. I do that at home.

For travels, I always charge to 100% on L3 (DCFC) as I don't know if I will need the extra charge on distances.

as noted in many earlier threads charging above 80 on DCDC is really a waste of time and money (if paying by minute) due to the charge curve.
Better to use a different strategy station-to-station.

 

[Billyk24]

It's safe to charge to 100% on L2. I do that at home.

For travels, I always charge to 100% on L3 (DCFC) as I don't know if I will need the extra charge on distances.

51 minutes to add 33kWh (DCFC) on a road trip? Must not be in much of a hurry or traveling very far. Or is this a California trend charging to 100% (DCFC) while road tripping?

 

[4sallypat]

as noted in many earlier threads charging above 80 on DCDC is really a waste of time and money (if paying by minute) due to the charge curve.
Better to use a different strategy station-to-station.

On road trips, I always charge to 100% as there are unknowns along the way (traffic, detours, weather, wildfires, etc).

Better to play it safe.

 

[4sallypat]

51 minutes to add 33kWh (DCFC) on a road trip? Must not be in much of a hurry or traveling very far. Or is this a California trend charging to 100% (DCFC) while road tripping?

Correct, not in a hurry on a road trip - have gotten older so I welcome many more stops and my wife enjoys shopping at outlets locate where Tesla Superchargers are located.

 

[azerik]

The mobile connector is locked at 32 amp (40amp breaker at the box)
The Charge station is slightly more expensive: https://chargers.ford.com/ford-charge-station-pro
It is adjustable, but so is a $300 Emporia.

 

[jeffMachE]

We use the Mobile Power Cord and a preexisting 30A 240 outlet in the garage.

Just curious about this. As others have stated, charging continuously on a 30-amp circuit is a long-term no-no when the charger wants to pull 32 amps. What I'm curious about is how the circuit was installed? The mobile charger comes with a NEMA 14-50 plug (which goes into a NEMA 14-50 receptacle). Its against code to wire up a 30-amp circuit with a NEMA 14-50 receptacle. Are you using a adapter to convert the NEMA 14-50 plug on the mobile charger to a 30-amp plug (like a 14-30 or a 6-30), or did someone install the wrong receptable on a 30-amp circuit?

 

[G.O.C.]

Enjoy your man cave, but please call an electrician in the interim. You don’t want to burn down the house as you plan for your palace.

Going to call the electrician today. The bids were last Fall before we had committed to buying a BEV and were leaning to PHEV. The project scope includes installing a 50A breaker/outlet for "future EV Charger".

So I'm thinking now that we have an EV I should upgrade this electrical scope to use a larger breaker to future proof the remodel for 800V and above vehicles, or even to accommodate a larger capacity battery in a future car. My neighbor has a 100A breaker with an 80A charger for his Lightning, for example. But his service is 200A, mine is 150A even though we used the same builder and his house is a year older... At the very least I'm thinking I should ask about a 60A or higher breaker so I can hardwire a 48A charger? I'm not seeing much in the way of EVSE above 48A (Emporia, EVIQA, etc) although one of the ChargePoint uses an 80A breaker but only gets to 50A delivered. I imagine the extra 2 A makes little difference?

 

[G.O.C.]

Just curious about this. As others have stated, charging continuously on a 30-amp circuit is a long-term no-no when the charger wants to pull 32 amps. What I'm curious about is how the circuit was installed? The mobile charger comes with a NEMA 14-50 plug (which goes into a NEMA 14-50 receptacle). Its against code to wire up a 30-amp circuit with a NEMA 14-50 receptacle. Are you using a adapter to convert the NEMA 14-50 plug on the mobile charger to a 30-amp plug (like a 14-30 or a 6-30), or did someone install the wrong receptable on a 30-amp circuit?

Yes I have made an adapter.

Funny thing - there was a different receptacle when the house was built in 1998, but it didn't match the plug on my 4 post lifts, so I changed it to the current receptacle, a 30A 4 wire because that's what is on the lifts. I gave the lifts spec sheet to the builder, so I'm not sure how he missed it... But he missed a few things, most went in my favor (higher efficiency furnace, ran both gas and electric for the stove, cathedral ceiling and drywalled the garage). All were options I priced but ended up declining, somehow his construction crew never got the message.
I can't recall what the original plug looked like, so now I guess I'll have to see what gauge wire is in that receptacle. I do recall the wires were quite rigid and barely fit into the lugs on the receptacle.

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

Going to call the electrician today. The bids were last Fall before we had committed to buying a BEV and were leaning to PHEV. The project scope includes installing a 50A breaker/outlet for "future EV Charger".

So I'm thinking now that we have an EV I should upgrade this electrical scope to use a larger breaker to future proof the remodel for 800V and above vehicles, or even to accommodate a larger capacity battery in a future car. My neighbor has a 100A breaker with an 80A charger for his Lightning, for example. But his service is 200A, mine is 150A even though we used the same builder and his house is a year older... At the very least I'm thinking I should ask about a 60A or higher breaker so I can hardwire a 48A charger? I'm not seeing much in the way of EVSE above 48A (Emporia, EVIQA, etc) although one of the ChargePoint uses an 80A breaker but only gets to 50A delivered. I imagine the extra 2 A makes little difference?

The max rate the Mach E will L2 charge is 48A (therefore a 60A circuit/breaker). But if you want to future proof, then sure, a 100A circuit/breaker for an 80A EVSE would make sense. Upgrading your service to 200A would also make sense, though that tends to be a bit more involved.

As for going with a 50A ChargePoint on a 80A breaker, I'm not sure I'd bother with that (and didn't know it exists). The Mach E won't charger any faster and you're not really future proofing much either.

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