Polestar 2 US price announced

[eager2own]

The only other bit of news I found today was this slightly disappointing news:

All 21MY and newer Ford and Lincoln vehicles will come with a three (3) month SiriusXM trial subscription. All 20MY and older vehicles will continue with the six (6) month SiriusXM trial subscription.

I never really used the satellite radio anyways, so no big deal for me.

Thanks for the update. Hadn't thought about the fact it would come with it... so not a big deal for me either way. I don't use it much, even in my wife's car which has it.

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[ChasingCoral]

Having run out of things to talk about as to the Mach E until we get other nuggets of info, we're desperate for any car news to talk about.
If this goes another month, we'll be deep in discussions comparing EZ-GO and Club golf cars.

My feeds have been getting lots of Moke ads. Want to talk about Mokes? ?

 

[dbsb3233]

The only other bit of news I found today was this slightly disappointing news:

All 21MY and newer Ford and Lincoln vehicles will come with a three (3) month SiriusXM trial subscription. All 20MY and older vehicles will continue with the six (6) month SiriusXM trial subscription.

I never really used the satellite radio anyways, so no big deal for me.

I keep telling myself I'm going to cancel SiriusXM in our 2 Escapes, but they keep offering me cheap (-ish) prices that keep my sucked in. We do listen to it in the vehicles, but we don't drive much so it's hard to justify.

However the same subscription also works on my smartphone and our Google Home speaker, so we get some extra use out of it.

 

[Ken7]

On the downside, only select Volvo dealerships will be "allowed" to sell and service Polestar 2 (and Polestar 3, etc.); so, for example, out of 8 or 9 Volvo dealerships in the Boston area, only one will be dealing with Polestar 2, as I understand it. As for some of the other comments made on this thread: Polestar is Volvo, not Geely, in terms of its design and quality. Much of the non-electric part is Volvo (seats, steering wheel, suspension, etc.). Volvos are well known for having among the best seats (if not the THE best) in the automotive industry, and I'm assuming that these high-quality seats are going into Polestar 2. Yes, Polestar is being made in China for now, but I wouldn't let that worry me because Volvo/Polestar in Sweden has control over the manufacturing as well as the design; labor is cheaper in China, and China is big on EVs, but that doesn't mean that Polestars or Volvos made in China are worse than those made in Europe or the USA.

And yes, the rear seats of Polestar fold down, so it's a hatchback like Mach-E; for some reason, Polestar doesn't mention this feature much and neither do most YouTube reviewers of it -- a real puzzle to me because that's a huge plus for many (if not most) potential buyers, vs. a "real" sedan where the back seats can't be put down (making them much less flexible and useful).

I’ve said it a couple of times, I called Polestar in Sweden and was told, point blank, Volvo dealers will NOT service the vehicles. Polestar is trying very hard to segregate their operation as distinct from Volvo. They will have Polestar service facilities, not Volvo, taking care of the cars. This is from the horse’s mouth.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I’ve said it a couple of times, I called Polestar in Sweden and was told, point blank, Volvo dealers will NOT service the vehicles. Polestar is trying very hard to segregate their operation as distinct from Volvo. They will have Polestar service facilities, not Volvo, taking care of the cars. This is from the horse’s mouth.

Or at least one horse's mouth. I wonder if it's like calling the IRS for guidance: call three times and go with the answer you get 2 out of 3 times?

 

[Ken7]

Or at least one horse's mouth. I wonder if it's like calling the IRS for guidance: call three times and go with the answer you get 2 out of 3 times?

No, what he said was consistent with what I read and what I just received back in writing from the Polestar U.S rep. They are very responsive to questions. I suspect the guy I spoke with in Sweden was the only rep there. I don’t think they need a large group to handle calls since at this point I’m sure there aren’t very many calls to begin with. So if you call I’d bet you’d get the same guy.

 

[cometguy]

I’ve said it a couple of times, I called Polestar in Sweden and was told, point blank, Volvo dealers will NOT service the vehicles. Polestar is trying very hard to segregate their operation as distinct from Volvo. They will have Polestar service facilities, not Volvo, taking care of the cars. This is from the horse’s mouth.

Your information is in conflict with what I have found online and heard from local Volvo dealerships:

Each Polestar store will be owned and operated by an existing Volvo retailer but will have its own separate location and a very different modus operandi.
“We will always have a retail partner in the North American market place [who] will always be involved in the negotiations and transacting with the customer,”
Greg Hembrough [head of Polestar Americas] said.
Service work will take place at the Volvo-retailer partner. Hembrough said this will involve minimal investment; about $1,500 for special tools, and certification of at least one technician. He noted that EVs need much less service work than conventional vehicles and 85 per cent of repairs don’t require a lift.
[https://canada.autonews.com/automakers/volvo-lays-out-canadian-retail-plan-its-polestar-ev-brand]

Thomas Ingenlath, Polestar CEO:
"No Volvo showrooms are involved, but we will do this together with well established Volvo dealers who can guarantee that service is provided."
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwi...-will-take-on-the-world-in-2020/#61d9f2215cc4]

From a local Volvo dealership, saying that they aren't able to sell Polestar 2 themselves but that another area dealership will: "[Boston Volvo is] a certified Polestar dealer."

 

[Ken7]

Your information is in conflict with what I have found online and heard from local Volvo dealerships:

Each Polestar store will be owned and operated by an existing Volvo retailer but will have its own separate location and a very different modus operandi.
“We will always have a retail partner in the North American market place [who] will always be involved in the negotiations and transacting with the customer,”
Greg Hembrough [head of Polestar Americas] said.
Service work will take place at the Volvo-retailer partner. Hembrough said this will involve minimal investment; about $1,500 for special tools, and certification of at least one technician. He noted that EVs need much less service work than conventional vehicles and 85 per cent of repairs don’t require a lift.
[https://canada.autonews.com/automakers/volvo-lays-out-canadian-retail-plan-its-polestar-ev-brand]

Thomas Ingenlath, Polestar CEO:
"No Volvo showrooms are involved, but we will do this together with well established Volvo dealers who can guarantee that service is provided."
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwi...-will-take-on-the-world-in-2020/#61d9f2215cc4]

From a local Volvo dealership, saying that they aren't able to sell Polestar 2 themselves but that another area dealership will: "[Boston Volvo is] a certified Polestar dealer."

There’s not too much that’s contradictory here in terms of the Forbes article. Sales will NOT take place at Volvo dealerships. Precisely what Sweden told me. Service is the question mark and that’s where I was told it will NOT take place at Volvo dealerships. That’s what Sweden told me. They said there will be Polestar branded sales & service locations. The fact that a Volvo dealership said another Volvo dealership is going to sell and/or service Polestars in Boston IS different than what I was told or what the Forbes article stated.

The real issue for me is the fact that there will only be one (1) location for sales & service in NY. In an email I got tonight, they still don’t know where, but say it will be in the NY Metro area. That’s a huge area and it could be anywhere. I believe that’s also true in LA. So the paucity of servicing locations is my overriding concern. It is, to a degree, ameliorated by the concierge service they’ll offer.

I hope you’re right and Sweden is wrong about their own product. I’d love to see the established and more numerous Volvo dealerships performing service. But it flies in the face of everything I’ve read about their desire to keep Polestar a very different & discreet entity from Volvo. That’s been repeated in countless articles, videos and press releases.

Look, I really like the looks and promise of this car. In some ways I’m more impressed with the Polestar than the ME and it’s one of the reasons I plunked down a $1,000 deposit. As I delve into the owners manual (you get a link when you’ve placed a deposit) the more impressed I become.

The facts will come out over the next month or two. According to the email I got tonight, they’ll know the NY location within the next few weeks. I’m betting it will have nothing to do with an existing Volvo location.

 

[pbojanoski]

There’s nothing contradictory here in terms of the Forbes article. Service will NOT take place at Volvo dealerships. Precisely what Sweden told me. Sales will NOT take place at Volvo dealerships. Precisely what Sweden told me. These will be Polestar branded sales & service locations. The fact that a Volvo dealership said another Volvo dealership is going to sell and/or service Polestars in Boston IS different than what I was told or what the Forbes article stated.

The real issue for me is the fact that there will only be one (1) location for sales & service in NY. In an email I got tonight, they still don’t know where, but say it will be in the NY Metro area. That’s a huge area and it could be anywhere. I believe that’s also true in LA. So the paucity of servicing locations is my overriding concern. It is, to a degree, ameliorated by the concierge service they’ll offer.

Look, I hope you’re right and Sweden is wrong about their own product. I’d love to see the established and more numerous Volvo dealerships performing service. But it flies in the face of everything I’ve read about their desire to keep Polestar a very different & discreet entity from Volvo. That’s been repeated in countless articles, videos and press releases.

Look, I really like the looks and promise of this car. In some ways I’m more impressed with the Polestar than the ME and it’s one of the reasons I plunked down a $1,000 deposit. As I delve into the owners manual (you get a link when you’ve placed a deposit) the more impressed I become.

The facts will come out over the next month or two. According to the email I got tonight, they’ll know the NY location within the next few weeks. I’m betting it will have nothing to do with an existing Volvo location.

I'm guessing you will share some highlights of the owners manual? Interested to hear what you find that is standing out.

 

[Ken7]

I can’t give you the link since that only works when you’re logged in to the account you set up once your deposit is approved. It’s not a pdf doc. It’s also a bit convoluted to navigate through, but in terms of features, it somewhat embarrasses by MS.

I’d be happy to answer questions as best I can for those really interested.

 

[cometguy]

I can’t give you the link since that only works when you’re logged in to the account you set up once your deposit is approved. It’s not a pdf doc. It’s also a bit convoluted to navigate through, but in terms of features, it somewhat embarrasses by MS.

I’d be happy to answer questions as best I can for those really interested.

I won't be buying my first BEV for another year, as we stick with PHEVs for now, so I'm doing my research by following numerous BEV forums and reading/watching the automotive-news reports. So I'll be interested to hear what you and others have to say about your new Polestar 2s, as well as what new Mach-E owners have to say -- and I'm eagerly watching many other new BEV models from other automakers due out in the next year or so, also. I agree that Polestar could be more forward about a lot of information. And I agree that Polestar will have more problems selling their cars than Ford will in selling Mach-Es because they are just more limited in the number of showrooms/stores/service locations (whether Polestar or very limited Volvo dealerships). But for me, here in Volvoland, I'm not worried about buying or servicing a Polestar 2 (or 3 or 4, or a Volvo BEV); as I will be buying a BEV only for local use, daily driver, and won't be taking it on trips beyond a full charge, I won't have to worry about public charging or about it breaking down hundreds of miles from the nearest authorized service location.

 

[Ken7]

I won't be buying my first BEV for another year, as we stick with PHEVs for now, so I'm doing my research by following numerous BEV forums and reading/watching the automotive-news reports. So I'll be interested to hear what you and others have to say about your new Polestar 2s, as well as what new Mach-E owners have to say -- and I'm eagerly watching many other new BEV models from other automakers due out in the next year or so, also. I agree that Polestar could be more forward about a lot of information. And I agree that Polestar will have more problems selling their cars than Ford will in selling Mach-Es because they are just more limited in the number of showrooms/stores/service locations (whether Polestar or very limited Volvo dealerships). But for me, here in Volvoland, I'm not worried about buying or servicing a Polestar 2 (or 3 or 4, or a Volvo BEV); as I will be buying a BEV only for local use, daily driver, and won't be taking it on trips beyond a full charge, I won't have to worry about public charging or about it breaking down hundreds of miles from the nearest authorized service location.

if you go with a Polestar you should be fine, assuming a Polestar actually winds up being serviced in Volvoland. I’m still not convinced that will be the case, but I hope it is.

if I wind up with the Mach E, this will all be moot. .

 

[eager2own]

And not surprisingly for a car from the Volvo family, it will be safety focused:

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/polestar-2-electric-safety-crash-battery/

 

[Ken7]

And not surprisingly for a car from the Volvo family, it will be safety focused:

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/polestar-2-electric-safety-crash-battery/

I wonder if this actually differs from Tesla's approach to occupant & battery protection?

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