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OK, it's three years since they decided in late 2018 to call them Mustangs. And it's 118 years since Ford started making cars in 1903. That seems like enough time for them to have figured out that you design and test the cars first, and sell them only after that work is completed.

You're right, we'll see if any improvements are forthcoming. I, for one, will not be holding my breath.
I mean, sure, but they could do like Tesla and make the acceleration numbers great all while building them in parking lot tent facilities. And then when customers drive them in downpours the rear bumpers pull off. ??‍♂. I’m pretty sure the fix is already being tested as we type.
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Actually based on the results so far, 0-60 in 3.5 with the 1 ft rollout seems realistic as is.

The OP was only a couple tenths off and has zero drag racing experience.

Most likely he didn’t powerbrake (as was suggested) and didn’t mess with different settings. We also don’t know if the battery was at ideal temp etc.

It’s after 60 mph that has us all worried.
I’m only worried about after the mid 80s honestly, because a 7.90@87mph is fookin’ moovin’. As I’ve said 1227 times in this thread.
 

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I'm thinking the same, but waiting for a Mach-E to roll up next to me. Based upon the GTPE numbers currently, I have nothing to worry about in my Y. No contest in my wife's 3 Performance.
How do you like the M3P? I almost ordered that, but then ordered the Mach E GT. The performance numbers have me worried so far. Given the M3P is $7500 less than the GT I equipped, they net out the same basically, so I’m certainly thinking about it again…
 

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I’m only worried about after the mid 80s honestly, because a 7.90@87mph is fookin’ moovin’. As I’ve said 1227 times in this thread.
I know you keep drawing the line at 80, but things seem to fall apart before that, looking at the 50-70 numbers. And the Model Y P is doing about 94 in the 1/8th while matching the GTPE to about 50. If the MYP is the standard, it needs to hit those numbers.

This also has been said 1227 times in the thread though.

FWIW, my SS hits 87 in the 1/8th (intake/tune), I just want something faster.
 

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I’m pretty sure the fix is already being tested as we type.
Why was it not implemented and tested a year ago? Or at least a few months ago?

I hope you are right, but I remain skeptical. A major-league manufacturer ensures performance before sales commence. Only neophytes like Tesla sell half-assed prototypes and try to fix stuff in software later.
 


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I know you keep drawing the line at 80, but things seem to fall apart before that, looking at the 50-70 numbers.
This is my concern.

Frankie's 50-70 time was almost exactly the same as that of my LS400!!! Which tells me that the fancy new electric "Performance Edition" accelerates slower than my 23-year-old luxury sedan after roughly 60 mph. If true, that's concerning for some pretty normal highway driving situations.

Edit: My mistake - my old car is not that fast (see below). Still, would hope for better in the Mustang GTPE.
 
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This is my concern.

Frankie's 50-70 time was almost exactly the same as that of my LS400!!! Which tells me that the fancy new electric "Performance Edition" accelerates slower than my 23-year-old luxury sedan after roughly 60 mph. If true, that's concerning for some pretty normal highway driving situations.
Really? Didn’t I see a 2.5 50-70mph in there? But yeah, in the Extend mode it’s obviously holding back with mid 3s. And wtf LS400 do you have that runs that quick? Curious.
 

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Really? Didn’t I see a 2.5 50-70mph in there? But yeah, in the Extend mode it’s obviously holding back with mid 3s. And wtf LS400 do you have that runs that quick? Curious.
In this world 2.5 is slooooooow.

The MYP does it in 1.5!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-0-60-mph-acceleration-tests/amp/

It even does 30-70 in 2.7.

Something is seriously wrong with a 2.5 50-70 time!

Full numbers for the Y:

Run 1
  • 0-60 mph: 3.30 seconds
  • 0-100 mph: 8.12 seconds
  • 30-70 mph: 2.72 seconds
  • 50-70 mph: 1.53 seconds

This makes it more than 4 seconds faster to 100 mph.

That’s an eternity!
 

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Really? Didn’t I see a 2.5 50-70mph in there? But yeah, in the Extend mode it’s obviously holding back with mid 3s. And wtf LS400 do you have that runs that quick? Curious.
Yes, you're right. I must have compared the numbers incorrectly. My '98 looks more like 3.3 seconds for the 50-70. Sorry for the confusion.
 

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I know you keep drawing the line at 80, but things seem to fall apart before that, looking at the 50-70 numbers. And the Model Y P is doing about 94 in the 1/8th while matching the GTPE to about 50. If the MYP is the standard, it needs to hit those numbers.

This also has been said 1227 times in the thread though.

FWIW, my SS hits 87 in the 1/8th (intake/tune), I just want something faster.
You and others draw it at 60, I say 7.90@87 means it’s not dead after 60 and I’m wrong (#1228). Fine, believe whatever. It needs to hit 110 in the 1/4 minimum, and ideally 112-114mph, we agree on that, let’s all be friends ?

And my SS sedan (Holden Commodore) hits 90-91mph in the 1/8th (LMS 93+ tune/RotoFab/Borla axle back), 115-117 1/4s. We all want faster, right?

look, there’s your view:
Ford Mustang Mach-E My GT Performance Edition (GTPE) first track launch with videos, timeslip! 0-60 in 4.12s, 1/4 mile in 12.657 @ 100.02 mph 856DFD91-F974-4DF7-B996-630E28E92F1D

?
 

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I’m only worried about after the mid 80s honestly, because a 7.90@87mph is fookin’ moovin’. As I’ve said 1227 times in this thread.
Talking about things that have been mentioned 1227 times. I was at a light behind a Hyundai Santa Fe 2.0T, the first thing I saw was 2.0T and it sent shivers downy spine.
 

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You and others draw it at 60, I say 7.90@87 means it’s not dead after 60 and I’m wrong (#1228). Fine, believe whatever. It needs to hit 110 in the 1/4 minimum, and ideally 112-114mph, we agree on that, let’s all be friends ?

And my SS sedan (Holden Commodore) hits 90-91mph in the 1/8th (LMS 93+ tune/RotoFab/Borla axle back), 115-117 1/4s. We all want faster, right?
At least your SS sedan is faster than my SS sedan. ?
Ford Mustang Mach-E My GT Performance Edition (GTPE) first track launch with videos, timeslip! 0-60 in 4.12s, 1/4 mile in 12.657 @ 100.02 mph 065C8008-7B19-49A0-A6AF-1485AA7458AA


This is your view. ?
 

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Yes, you're right. I must have compared the numbers incorrectly. My '98 looks more like 3.3 seconds for the 50-70. Sorry for the confusion.
Ok, cool, I was like wtf is this dude talking about, did he 2JZ his LS400? ?
 

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Where in the past has a car been released and the media not gotten access to it until 2 months after it was built for normal customers? Heck even the Maverick is already being driven by the media and it's not even out yet.

Do we really think they're doing this simply because there aren't enough cars available for the media right now.... or can we say almost for sure from this that there is something going on that Ford is trying to change before the media gets ahold of them?
 

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In this world 2.5 is slooooooow.

The MYP does it in 1.5!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-0-60-mph-acceleration-tests/amp/

It even does 30-70 in 2.7.

Something is seriously wrong with a 2.5 50-70 time!

Full numbers for the Y:

Run 1
  • 0-60 mph: 3.30 seconds
  • 0-100 mph: 8.12 seconds
  • 30-70 mph: 2.72 seconds
  • 50-70 mph: 1.53 seconds
This makes it more than 4 seconds faster to 100 mph.

That’s an eternity!
Well, here’s the thing, I’ve run MYPs in my SS and I see lots of their runs in my Dragy app. I also see reviews like you and everyone else. They are not running 8.1s to 100mph out in the wild at 50-70 SOC and without preconditioning. Lots of 3.6s to 60 and 12.0-12.2 1/4s @ 112-114 out there. Sure there are high 11s but they’re the exception, not the rule.

Also, it’s no mystery why they’re quick/fast. Leaving out an interior saves 150-250 lbs. leaving out typical sound deadening and acoustic insulation sprays another 50-75. Before you know it you’ve saved 300-350 lbs. So if you’re Ford and you make it your #s target you’ve got a fucking tough road to hoe. I hope they get things fixed because I know the GTPE is going to outhandle the Y on track, around town and everywhere in between. And it also looks great and has a nice interior.
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