Is the included charger not sufficient?

[DanCoon]

Thank you all for the replies. You brought up a great point I hadn't thought about as far as having a cord while travelling. I've been working from home for 2 years now almost and kind of forget what it's like to go anywhere of a significant distance.

I wish we had rebates like that! Will definitely keep my eye out for any new incentives.

I guess I will try the OEM unit and see how that goes before making that investment.

Thanks again!

Anytime I go on a road trip I just unplug the mobile charger and put it in the back. I have no reason to buy another charger.

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[Pina]

One other advantage of getting one of these smart chargers is you will have the ability to program your charge cycles and schedule them ahead of time. Basically you control your charging off your phone and be able to access a lot more data about your usage and costs. Most states have off peak utility rates for electricity and these smart chargers can be setup to charge the EV's preferentially during those time slots.

I clearly have so much to learn! I thought that you COULD set charging schedules with the Ford provided charger and Ford Pass. We do have time of use charges/rates for electricity so I will definitely need to be able to program.

 

[2021-MMEx-RT1]

I also have a $1 million umbrella insurance policy that I hope I never have to use.

Damn Son, sounds like it'd be cheaper to stay home when it rains...

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

Every campground has 240v outlets.

You’re obviously not from central Idaho. ?

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

I clearly have so much to learn! I thought that you COULD set charging schedules with the Ford provided charger and Ford Pass. We do have time of use charges/rates for electricity so I will definitely need to be able to program.

You can set the a schedule in your car. And not all aftermarket EVSEs have “smart” functions. My aftermarket Grizzl-E’s are just dumb chargers. Fancy extension cords from my 240V 50 amp circuits to my cars. But I like to carry the included charger with me. I use it at work. And I’m lazy and just want to pull into my garage and plug in. That’s why I bought the different home charger. But you CAN schedule charging from your car. “Smart” EVSEs may make it a little easier.

 

[Mirak]

Every campground has 240v outlets.

I’ve heard that, and that’s good to know. So if you’re taking a trip somewhere into the wild where are there are lots of campgrounds but not much DCFC, I would unplug the mobile unit from the garage and bring it along.

 

[SnBGC]

The included unit is called a Mobile EVSE which basically means it is designed to travel with the vehicle so the user can charge if either of the two receptacle types are available. This could be most anywhere of course, home, work, vacation home, friends, family etc.

It is adequate for the vast majority of users. There are some situations where it might not be ideal such as wet locations or very hot climates (Phoenix AZ for example...) It will work, just not as well as a permanent installed EVSE in most cases.

Mobile EVSEs are generally potted units with no serviceable parts inside and are susceptible to thermal issues since they don't have a good way to stay cool. They are throw away units since they usually can't be serviced or repaired.

 

[J-orange]

I don't have my MME yet, not even a build date . I paid an electrician a small fortune to put a NEMA 14-50 outlet in the garage and run a 4 Gauge wire to my panel and use a 50amp breaker. I wanted to take advantage of the tax credit for the EVSE. Going with the thicker wire, allows me to cheaply upgrade if need be in the future to 60amp service. Went with the Chargepoint home flex because it was highly rated and one of the approved smart models that i can get a partial reimbursement from my power company.

 

[UW2]

I've read so many posts on here about different charging stations people have purchased for the Mach E and it's left me with the question as to whether or not the included charger is inadequate?

I've never had an EV and am patiently awaiting the arrival of mine this spring. I have an electrician coming to wire a 240 outlet and from what I can tell the included charger will give me adequate charging speed for my needs.

Is the only reason to go buy a different type gaining visibility on power draw from my meter or what else would I be getting?

Thanks in advance!

Been a year and have not used any other charger. But only 6000 miles so far...

 

[Accord07]

I clearly have so much to learn! I thought that you COULD set charging schedules with the Ford provided charger and Ford Pass. We do have time of use charges/rates for electricity so I will definitely need to be able to program.

Yes you can set charging schedules in FordPass or on the touch screen in the car, up to two separate periods on weekdays and another two for weekends. I set the schedule on my ChargePoint HomeFlex though, because occasionally I want to override the schedule - my utility charge the lowest rates from 12AM-6AM daily, the 2nd best rates 6am-2pm and 6pm-12am on weekdays and 6am-12am on weekends, so normally I want the car to wait till 12am to start, but when I have to leave early the next morning and there won't be enough time between midnight and time of departure to reach the desired SOC, I just hit "Start Charging" on the ChargePoint app before going to bed. I can override the schedule set in FordPass as well, but doing so overrides the desired % to charge to as well - it will charge to 100%. With that in mind, I prefer setting it on ChargePoint.

On a side note, both CharfePoint and Ford suggest the (same) incorrect schedule after I pick the correct rate plan: they both avoid the peak rate period, but also exclude the 12am-6am window when rates are the lowest.

 

[Accord07]

Every campground has 240v outlets.

Of course! I almost used my Ford mobile EVSE last weekend, before I found one J-1772 plug left on the back of a municipal government building, there were several NEMA 14-50 outlet on that wall if all the J-1772 plugs had been taken.

 

[Ranger Rick]

I've read so many posts on here about different charging stations people have purchased for the Mach E and it's left me with the question as to whether or not the included charger is inadequate?

I've never had an EV and am patiently awaiting the arrival of mine this spring. I have an electrician coming to wire a 240 outlet and from what I can tell the included charger will give me adequate charging speed for my needs.

Is the only reason to go buy a different type gaining visibility on power draw from my meter or what else would I be getting?

Thanks in advance!

In terms of raw specs, if you have a 240 volt, 50 amp outlet, it should keep up with most driving needs fairly well. The unit is rated at 240 volts and 48 amps which equals just a little over 11.5 kw (240 x 48 = 11,520 watts). Depending upon your trim level that works out to be just over 30 miles added for every hour you are plugged in (assuming 3.3 miles per kw/h). If you are plugged in only for 6 hours, you gain 180 miles or so.

You'll note that the onboard charger for the MME is 11.5 kw rated, so going with anything more powerful would be of no practical benefit. The charger Ford offers is adequate enough.

Note: While there are more powerful 60 and 80 amp EVSEs out there, they exceed the capacity of the onboard charger and would offer little value beyond having a backup unit handy.

On that note, it may be worthwhile to have a backup and with rebates, may not cost you a lot to buy a backup. Between my 2014 Fusion Energi and 2019 Fusion Energi, I personally fried 2 EVSE units and had a 3rd replaced under recall. Granted these where 120 volt models and had different oems supplying them, I'd call that a streak of very bad luck.

Reference: https://www.ford.com/mustang/ev-charging/mache/

 

[Maquis]

In terms of raw specs, if you have a 240 volt, 50 amp outlet, it should keep up with most driving needs fairly well. The unit is rated at 240 volts and 48 amps which equals just a little over 11.5 kw (240 x 48 = 11,520 watts). Depending upon your trim level that works out to be just over 30 miles added for every hour you are plugged in (assuming 3.3 miles per kw/h). If you are plugged in only for 6 hours, you gain 180 miles or so.

You'll note that the onboard charger for the MME is 11.5 kw rated, so going with anything more powerful would be of no practical benefit. The charger Ford offers is adequate enough.

Note: While there are more powerful 60 and 80 amp EVSEs out there, they exceed the capacity of the onboard charger and would offer little value beyond having a backup unit handy.

On that note, it may be worthwhile to have a backup and with rebates, may not cost you a lot to buy a backup. Between my 2014 Fusion Energi and 2019 Fusion Energi, I personally fried 2 EVSE units and had a 3rd replaced under recall. Granted these where 120 volt models and had different oems supplying them, I'd call that a streak of very bad luck.

Reference: https://www.ford.com/mustang/ev-charging/mache/

The Ford Mobile Charger included with the car is a 32A unit. I can’t tell if you’re talking about it (what you call “the unit” in paragraph 1) or the separately-sold Ford Connected Charge Station (which is 48A).

 

[Glen Boise]

In preparation for my Mach-E's arrival, I had a 240 volt/50 amp circuit installed. Originally, I intended on using the provided unit. It worked well. I found, though, that I had problems plugging and unplugging the proper supply plug in and out each time I used it. Nor, did I like having the output cable laying on the floor during charging. In my crowded garage, it was a tripping hazard.
I purchased a ChargifyEV 40 amp unit. It is a basic unit without the fancy Wi-Fi stuff. It has a 3 foot long input cable. I needed the length because of all the stuff hanging on the garage wall. It would have been a lot of work to move thing around. The cable storage bracket is also high for the same reason. I draped the output cable over a handy roof beam. It hangs down along side the car, out of the way, when I use it. Keep in mind that in my part of Indiana, we do not have lower electrical rates at night, nor any kind of incentives to buy EVs.

 

[Ranger Rick]

The Ford Mobile Charger included with the car is a 32A unit. I can’t tell if you’re talking about it (what you call “the unit” in paragraph 1) or the separately-sold Ford Connected Charge Station (which is 48A).

Doh, you are correct, Right specs, wrong device.

Now we know why the spousal unit doesn't listen to me.

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