Tesla model 3 Performance has 80.5kWh battery pack, 250kW charging capabilities but takes 40 minutes to charge?

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Is my math off, the Tesla photos not correct or does the Tesla mode 3 on a V3 Supercharger have one heck of a taper drop off?
Ford Mustang Mach-E Tesla model 3 Performance has 80.5kWh battery pack, 250kW charging capabilities but takes 40 minutes to charge? tesla V3 peak charging curve
Ford Mustang Mach-E Tesla model 3 Performance has 80.5kWh battery pack, 250kW charging capabilities but takes 40 minutes to charge? Tesla model 3 performance 80.5kWh battery pack
 

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Yep, I owned my Tesla and got the 250KW experience. IT is only marginally faster, and it really just a marketing gimmick. While it does speed up the charging time from 0-70% significantly, most the time people don't want to arrive at the charger at less than 20%.

What you get from Tesla is constantly over promises and under delivering. I was sorely disappointing in my ownership experience with a Tesla. All aspects of the ownership was just bad, except for driving it.
 

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Is my math off, the Tesla photos not correct or does the Tesla mode 3 on a V3 Supercharger have one heck of a taper drop off?
Ford Mustang Mach-E Tesla model 3 Performance has 80.5kWh battery pack, 250kW charging capabilities but takes 40 minutes to charge? Tesla model 3 performance 80.5kWh battery pack
Ford Mustang Mach-E Tesla model 3 Performance has 80.5kWh battery pack, 250kW charging capabilities but takes 40 minutes to charge? Tesla model 3 performance 80.5kWh battery pack
That's 40 minutes to 100%, looking at the "charge to" bar.
 

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In case where you were planning to charge at is down/full and you need enough charge to make it to the next.
 

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Not suggesting it would both me either... That said, my wife gets all nervous when the gas tank is down to a quarter of the tank, and it's easier to find a dozen gas stations than a single charging station in this area of the country. Reports of charging stations being down or unavailable for weeks at a time show up in the news more often than gas stations, and that certainly doesn't inspire confidence for anyone with range anxiety.
 


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For many reasons, but the Tesla trip planner in the car certainly can be off drastically in my 10,000 mile road trip experience. Because of range anxiety. And from traveling across the country in the model 3, the superchargers are too far apart to time it perfectly to arrive at 5% every time. There are not enough of them. I'm still amazed at how rain and windy conditions affected my cars range. IT was certainly never a 300 mile car, more like 220-250 in the summer and 150 miles in the winter. That makes for fun trip planning.

Regularly I would arrive with 20+% and have to charge until 80%, no big deal. But often times I would never even see full SC output with the 250KW stations I would go to. It was more like a 175KW station which is all I would ever see. Later I remember seeing in Tesla news that Tesla actually doesn't always allow your car to receive full output. Oftentimes they don't allow it. Odd.

Once I stayed overnight in the winter in a hotel in Asheville. I arrived late that night with about 25% battery remaining but there was a supercharger across the street. When I woke up that morning, my car had the snowflake and while I don't recall the range loss, it was very significant. To the point to where I was shocked. Regardless, I get to that supercharger and It took me sitting there for around two hours until my battery was back up to 80%. Electric cars do terrible road tripping in cold climates, regularly saw 50% range loss if you wanted to be comfortable in the car.

Just made for a trip planning nightmare to be honest. When you can turn the heater on in the car and instantly lose half of your range, that doesn't sit well with a lot of folks. Combine that with interstate speeds, wind, rain, etc and who knows how much range you'll get? It's certainly no where near as bad in ICE vehicles.
 
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For many reasons, but the Tesla trip planner in the car certainly can be off drastically in my 10,000 mile road trip experience. Because of range anxiety. And from traveling across the country in the model 3, the superchargers are too far apart to time it perfectly to arrive at 5% every time. There are not enough of them. I'm still amazed at how rain and windy conditions affected my cars range. IT was certainly never a 300 mile car, more like 220-250 in the summer and 150 miles in the winter. That makes for fun trip planning.

Regularly I would arrive with 20+% and have to charge until 80%, no big deal. But often times I would never even see full SC output with the 250KW stations I would go to. It was more like a 175KW station which is all I would ever see. Later I remember seeing in Tesla news that Tesla actually doesn't always allow your car to receive full output. Oftentimes they don't allow it. Odd.

Once I stayed overnight in the winter in a hotel in Asheville. I arrived late that night with about 25% battery remaining but there was a supercharger across the street. When I woke up that morning, my car had the snowflake and while I don't recall the range loss, it was very significant. To the point to where I was shocked. Regardless, I get to that supercharger and It took me sitting there for around two hours until my battery was back up to 80%. Electric cars do terrible road tripping in cold climates, regularly saw 50% range loss if you wanted to be comfortable in the car.

Just made for a trip planning nightmare to be honest. When you can turn the heater on in the car and instantly lose half of your range, that doesn't sit well with a lot of folks. Combine that with interstate speeds, wind, rain, etc and who knows how much range you'll get? It's certainly no where near as bad in ICE vehicles.
It makes me really wonder how the MME will maintain range in the winter without a heat pump - I am sure Ford thought of this, given the winter testing we have seen.
 

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It makes me really wonder how the MME will maintain range in the winter without a heat pump - I am sure Ford thought of this, given the winter testing we have seen.
The bigger battery in it will help a lot. But still yet to be determined. Heat pump doesn’t do anything because they’re only effective down to about 40-50f.
 

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Glad you have had good experiences
 

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The bigger battery in it will help a lot. But still yet to be determined. Heat pump doesn’t do anything because they’re only effective down to about 40-50f.
Modern heat pumps have a wide range, and can typically be effective below 0. That said, there is generally a a limit between hot and cold side, but that can be increased with a multi-stage, and generally have lower efficiency at lower temperatures, but still effective.
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