PG&E and Ford collaborate on bi-directional charging

[Deleted member 9368]

Sorry if double post. But, this great news and hopefully expands:

PG&E partners with Ford Motor on bidirectional EV charging

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...d-motor-bidirectional-ev-charging-2022-03-11/

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[Avelli]

Part of me has concerns that PG&E will eventually bill you at $0.38 kWh to charge your MME, and siphon off some of that back into the grid with no compensation. At that point, you're better off getting an inverter to power your devices.

If they can get the back-and-forth compensation right, it would be better as a whole. The biggest concern with the boom of electric vehicles and at-home charging is how the grid today is not going to be able to support the demands. Carrying power over high-power transmission lines to support the current home demands during heavy load days has resulted in brownouts and rolling blackouts. PG&E may be looking at this as a way to offset some of the load during the day by pulling from EVs to cool homes appropriately within a region, while minimizing line losses with a local distribution.

If we had our druthers about us we could figure out a way to pull power at night during off-peak hours, and sell it back to PG&E at market rates.

 

[igotnoclevername]

Sorry if double post. But, this great news and hopefully expands:

PG&E partners with Ford Motor on bidirectional EV charging

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...d-motor-bidirectional-ev-charging-2022-03-11/

They announced a partnership with Chevy just a couple days ago as well.

 

[AKgrampy]

Part of me has concerns that PG&E will eventually bill you at $0.38 kWh to charge your MME, and siphon off some of that back into the grid with no compensation. At that point, you're better off getting an inverter to power your devices.

If they can get the back-and-forth compensation right, it would be better as a whole. The biggest concern with the boom of electric vehicles and at-home charging is how the grid today is not going to be able to support the demands. Carrying power over high-power transmission lines to support the current home demands during heavy load days has resulted in brownouts and rolling blackouts. PG&E may be looking at this as a way to offset some of the load during the day by pulling from EVs to cool homes appropriately within a region, while minimizing line losses with a local distribution.

If we had our druthers about us we could figure out a way to pull power at night during off-peak hours, and sell it back to PG&E at market rates.

They would not take energy without compensation. I would also believe they would give extra compensation if this was something of benefit to them. The kind of crazy part to me would be in areas with all the various time of use rates, etc then what would be the compensation rate? Could I charge a Lightning during the off peak time but sell it back to utility on peak and pocket the differential? Plus you alway have to take into consideration of the safety of the line crews. If there is an outage due to a downed line you don’t want a bunch of distributed generators heating the line back up!

 

[Avelli]

They would not take energy without compensation. I would also believe they would give extra compensation if this was something of benefit to them.

Sadly, I wish that were true. However with NEM 3.0 that is exactly what they are proposing. Those who install solar and generate excess would get back $0.05/kWh, which PG&E would then sell back to the customers at $0.20-$0.30/kWh.

 

[AKgrampy]

Sadly, I wish that were true. However with NEM 3.0 that is exactly what they are proposing. Those who install solar and generate excess would get back $0.05/kWh, which PG&E would then sell back to the customers at $0.20-$0.30/kWh.

 

[AKgrampy]

That is crazy!!! I always had a rub with net metering but that rate seems a bit out of line!

 

[RedStallion]

Sorry if double post. But, this great news and hopefully expands:

PG&E partners with Ford Motor on bidirectional EV charging

https://www.reuters.com/business/au...d-motor-bidirectional-ev-charging-2022-03-11/

And the question is why would anybody want wearing out the expensive battery? Each full charging cycle is equivalent to some $20 in battery degradation.

 

[Deleted member 9368]

And the question is why would anybody want wearing out the expensive battery? Each full charging cycle is equivalent to some $20 in battery degradation.

Emergency (2-3 day power out) only?

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