Anybody have a solution to get rid of the max 5sec power cut off

[SWO]

You might not have remembered them, but since you got a 2022, you weren’t looking as closely as some of us.

I ordered a GT the first day you could (April 2021) and read every teaser and review that came out. As soon as they started getting delivered in August/Sept and the first people got their hands on them……. That’s when the 5 seconds complaints showed up.

In fact, here is the comprehensive list of reviews and videos from Fall 2021. At first, they didn’t mention the 5 seconds (because they weren’t allowed to do full tests).

Actually reading those “first reviews,” you’ll notice most of them DID NOT include test drives. Ford purposefully delayed the ability for reviewers to drive it and had a “blackout date” for reviews. Likely because they were hiding the 5 second limit.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/mach-e-gt-official-reviews-are-here.10267/

By November 2021, when they finally did full tests…. The tone changed:

https://autos.yahoo.com/2021-ford-mustang-mach-e-140000601.html

2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Limits Power during Hard Acceleration
Connor Hoffman
November 25, 2021

And the first Time we saw “something is wrong)- August of 2021-
https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...-in-4-12s-1-4-mile-in-12-657-100-02-mph.9031/

First review mentioning it- Oct 2021-

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...reduces-battery-power-to-limit-heating.10416/

Your link has the Out-of-Spec review of the "Spicy" Mach-E GT. This was the launch event in October and everyone in the media got to drive both the GT and the GTPE. You might argue that top end performance was governed by whatever the local speed limits are, but I don't recall any complaints about performance or thermal throttling.

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[Neil4Real]

I don't remember seeing any complaints about power delivery before the 5sec limitation was observed when someone took their car to the track. All of the car reviews I saw before then were glowing, Kyle Conner's in particular.

I get the internet bragging rights angle. I wish I could say my car runs 11's (and I think it would if they let it), but I don't notice any limitation on a day-to-day basis.

I think you saying it doesn't effect YOU, is fine. But you're getting in to back in forth with people that it does matter to, almost trying to say it shouldn't, tell me your exact conditions, etc.

Well, I take a toll road to work where everyone is going 75 to 80mph. When I get on the on ramp from a red light, I zoom zoom up to 70, because of the heat generated by this zoom zoom, I now have jail bars limiting me. If I was already doing spirited driving, not speeding, just giving it power when lights would turn green, I will see a 25% reduction in power when I get to 70mph on the freeway. Then if I need to get over, as the initial lane I get on becomes an exit only, so I then try and accelerate, remember traffic is going faster than me at 75 to 80mph, and I barely have any juice left.

If I baby the accelerator and don't jump the gun, I'll have just 2 to 4 gray jail bars when I hit 70 mph on the freeway, when I do one or two passes, as I usually get all the way over to the far left lane, I'll be back to gray bar jail and have no juice to really pass/power up if ever needed.

This toll road, where my HVBJB failed, is also really hilly, so I'm creating even more heat than another person cruising between 70 and 80mph due to the grade.

It is most certainly my choice to drive at whatever speed I want and deal with the consequences. The Mercedes I sold for the GT PE had no issues with this and never hit a "power wall" nor does my friend's Model S or my wife's VW big ol' Atlas.

You're fortunate you don't experience it in your day to day, but I hit the power wall very often and it is maddening and disappointing that Ford doesn't care at all.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I don't remember seeing any complaints about power delivery before the 5sec limitation was observed when someone took their car to the track. All of the car reviews I saw before then were glowing, Kyle Conner's in particular.

I get the internet bragging rights angle. I wish I could say my car runs 11's (and I think it would if they let it), but I don't notice any limitation on a day-to-day basis.

I believe the first person to take delivery of a GT-PE ( @0t60-3.5 was it not?) complained within days of receiving his car due to having either run a Dragy or having taken it to the strip (my memory is fuzzy on that). He had his car many months before the press got one. ?‍?

Personally I was looking to occasionally drive the car as publicized. I was looking for “repeatable performance” on a road course using Unbridled Extend mode. Due to lack of chargers at the track, you can’t even activate Unbridled Extend. Even with a stop limiting to 3/4 throttle, the car isn’t consistent. Definitely not as publicized. ??

 

[Kevin P]

I believe the first person to take delivery of a GT-PE ( @0t60-3.5 was it not?) complained within days of receiving his car due to having either run a Dragy or having taken it to the strip (my memory is fuzzy on that). He had his car many months before the press got one. ?‍?

Yep, that was the post that made this issue famous. And damn near caused me (and many others) to cancel my order. Rumor has it that there is a refresh/improvement in the works for the 2024 model year. If the GT is fixed to perform like its competitors, I would order another one. I love(d) the looks, handling, and room. Oh, and they need to fix the horrible ride quality, although if you aren't in the back seat you don't notice it much.

 

[fpasta]

My dream is that the 2025 Mach-E GTPE has 130+kWh battery, full wide open unbridled power, and vehicle to load and vehicle to home capability. Count me in.

I'll be paying attention to this myself.

 

[Space Ghost GT]

My offer of I gotta drill, jumper cables and a .10 cent switch from harbor freight still stands. Who wants all the pooooowah!?

 

[Mach1E]

Your link has the Out-of-Spec review of the "Spicy" Mach-E GT. This was the launch event in October and everyone in the media got to drive both the GT and the GTPE. You might argue that top end performance was governed by whatever the local speed limits are, but I don't recall any complaints about performance or thermal throttling.

There weren’t any complaints, and that’s the press event I referenced earlier (blackout on reviews before that).

At the event, they got to drive on a tiny short AutoX course and then drive on some curvy public streets.

The GT does fine there and you don’t have an opportunity to hit the 5 second limit in those situations.

It was the individual owners at that point that found out the secret Ford was hiding and then later the reviewers took the car to the test track and found out the same.

Basically your post just proves what Ford does was effective: “I don’t remember people hearing about the secret Ford tried to hide……”

They controlled the flow of information as long as they could.

The first “official” review to mention the limit happened after many of us already had taken delivery of our cars.

And the first mention of a limit on a Ford USA website was BURIED deep in a FAQ section that wasn’t even linkable from the main Mach E page. And they showed up many months later.

 

[tesla2mme]

Yes, the EV6 GT is fast, but it is just not a good looking car is it? Maybe it’s just me?

I like the way it looks. The Ioniq5, not so much, but for me I’d drive an EV6 for sure. The MachE would be perfect for me if it didn’t turn off the fun and cut power down to as slow as my 2002 Mustang GT so quickly.

 

[ctenidae]

Have you guys solved this yet?

I tried putting tape over the grey bar area. Adds an element of fun to not have an idea of how much power I'll have at any given moment.

I see 3-4 bars normally on my 70-80 mph highway drives, but can reduce them to 1-2 if I'm paying attention. There is a noticeable lack of power when accelerating after cruising for a while, and not just from 70 to 80 or above. If you're cruising along at speed and run up behind a slower pocket of cars, you might not have the power to make it through a hole to get past. If you have to sit and wait for the hole, you probably have enough time to cool off, but going from cruising to 20 mph of regen keeps a bit of heat in the pack, limiting your ability to act if a hole opens early. Kind of annoying when faced with a gravel truck enjoying sandblasting everything in sight.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

For me, the biggest problem is that the car slows down after 70, and just dies after 80 to the point where a AWD MME is faster then the top of the line GTPE.

Plain false advertising the GT doing hot laps on a close circuit course.

 

[Studly]

Wow, that's not at all my experience. My MME flies after 70, 80 and runs out of road before running out of power. Easily reaching speed under any circumstances. I've only driven 750 miles in the last few days though. Could be I have the only non restrained GT. Picked it up and drove 480 miles the first day. Divided highway and two lane. Hilly and flat. Drove a fast 260 miles on day 3. My GT is Fast. Really fast. No bars. My actual driving experience.

Pictures, or video of your experience?

 

[Ghost Ryder]

Wow, that's not at all my experience. My MME flies after 70, 80 and runs out of road before running out of power. Easily reaching speed under any circumstances. I've only driven 750 miles in the last few days though. Could be I have the only non restrained GT. Picked it up and drove 480 miles the first day. Divided highway and two lane. Hilly and flat. Drove a fast 260 miles on day 3. My GT is Fast. Really fast. No bars. My actual driving experience.

Pictures, or video of your experience?

I guess everything is relative. There still is pickup after 80, but not as much as should be given the 600lb of torque and 480 HP. My Model YP easily is faster especially after 80. There are plenty of videos on YT when they measure the acceleration to top speed (110+/-) and its outright embarrassing for a car with so much HP.



The GT has plenty of pick up from 0-70, but then looses steam quickly.

 

[Mach1E]

Wow, that's not at all my experience. My MME flies after 70, 80 and runs out of road before running out of power. Easily reaching speed under any circumstances. I've only driven 750 miles in the last few days though. Could be I have the only non restrained GT. Picked it up and drove 480 miles the first day. Divided highway and two lane. Hilly and flat. Drove a fast 260 miles on day 3. My GT is Fast. Really fast. No bars. My actual driving experience.

Pictures, or video of your experience?

At first I didn’t notice the gray bars either. They’re real small but once you see them, you can’t unsee them.

Go on the highway, drive 70 mph, then floor it.

Take a video and we will show you the gray bars.

In the summer, at that speed, it isn’t “slow,” but it isn’t fast either. In the winter? Lol….. a 4 cylinder Civic can outrun us at those speeds when it’s real cold.

The first 1/8th mile, the car is as fast as a mid 11 second 1/4 mile car. (Porsche 911, Corvette, etc)

2nd 1/8th it falls on its face and runs like a mid 14 second car (think Honda Accord or Toyota Camry).

And that’s just sad to be neck and neck roll racing with 2 of the most boring sedans on the planet.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

even at steady speed of 72mph, the bars will start showing up.

 

[Studly]

even at steady speed of 72mph, the bars will start showing up.

100% NOT my experience. Hours of 80 without limit or issue on my 480 and 250 mile drives. Maybe it's just me and I'm lucky. Either way, I was a bit concerned before my purchase. I bought it, drove it and can't find it. I tried.

Flame ? on

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