GTPE would you buy it again?

[MachEMaster]

As the clock is ticking on my unit being returned, I’ve been test driving a lot. Today I test drive the iX m50. What an experience! It drives more like a SUV but when you’re hammer down, it doesn’t slow down at 70. It just keeps pulling. The unit I drove tagged at $95k so not it a comparable price range but you can see and feel where that extra 25k is. Right down to the self darkening moon roof (it’s a trip how it clouds over). That said, the GT PE is still my favorite drive but it also keeps glitching and reminding me why it’s got to go. Today, when I bluetoothed music it would only play on the front speaker. Ugh!

Check your audio settings. The audio setting may be selected to "Driver" which sound like a mono channel, if you select "All Passengers" it switches to what I would describe as surround sound.

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[Izzle]

Current price? Eeehh probably not but when I reserved my GTPE it was prior to any price hikes (so I got price protection of $3k), was able to get $2k and 2.9% financing by doing Ford Options, and was eligible for the old $7,500 federal tax credit. These all made a HUGE difference in my purchase.

 

[rsfloodco]

To end my story. My replacement 2023 MMEPE grey nite pony came in. I test drove it and said “no thank you”. The biggest reasons were #1 the incredible challenge with long distance trips. #2 the power limiter. #3 the unfounded 77k price tag. #4 tire life expectancy of 10-15k. I now drive a super hot new generation GT. For half the price, I’m slower 0-60 but smiling all the way to 110(fast as I need to go).

 

[Progress]

Yes, or course I would buy this car again. It's the best car I have ever had, as several people have said. The benefits of the MagneRide suspension, which is felt at all times, totally outweighs the problem of the 5 second limit, which only occurs when one is trying to clearly exceed the speed limit. Plus what other car gets so many random "Wows!"?

 

[Mrn]

My pleasures with the Mach-e are: 1. Driving a beautiful machine, 2. Not dumping an obscene amount of carbon into the atmosphere every time I drive, 3. Getting the most miles/KwHr I can and , last and least, 4. Still getting away from the stoplight way ahead of everyone else.

 

[Stang68]

To end my story. My replacement 2023 MMEPE grey nite pony came in. I test drove it and said “no thank you”. The biggest reasons were #1 the incredible challenge with long distance trips. #2 the power limiter. #3 the unfounded 77k price tag. #4 tire life expectancy of 10-15k. I now drive a super hot new generation GT. For half the price, I’m slower 0-60 but smiling all the way to 110(fast as I need to go).

Nice spec. If I didn't have two car seats in the back of my GTPE an ICE Mustang would be nice to have!
Instead I'll have to "settle" for one of the fastest dad-mobiles around. An AMG E63 wagon is still too pricey!

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Yes, or course I would buy this car again. It's the best car I have ever had, as several people have said. The benefits of the MagneRide suspension, which is felt at all times, totally outweighs the problem of the 5 second limit, which only occurs when one is trying to clearly exceed the speed limit. Plus what other car gets so many random "Wows!"?

And you are the best example of why Ford hasn’t felt the need to acknowledge/fix the 5-sec limiter. Most buyers are like you. But, they did everyone dirty by not disclosing the power limit to U.S. buyers like other makers do with their power spec/boost mode disclaimers.

Also, where I live a GT/PE can be made to “spit the bit” at perfectly legal speeds, we have 75-85mph limits on roads all around us.

 

[Mach1E]

And you are the best example of why Ford hasn’t felt the need to acknowledge/fix the 5-sec limiter. Most buyers are like you. But, they did everyone dirty by not disclosing the power limit to U.S. buyers like other makers do with their power spec/boost mode disclaimers.

Also, where I live a GT/PE can be made to “spit the bit” at perfectly legal speeds, we have 75-85mph limits on roads all around us.

No it can’t, not at those speeds.

Know of any place with a 75-85 mph speed limit where you have to floor it from a stop to get to those speeds?

And if you do? The “limit“ just starts to appear at 75 mph. You wouldn’t even notice it then.

Definitely agree on your other points though. But for normal, legal driving…… GT delivers.

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

No it can’t, not at those speeds.

Know of any place with a 75-85 mph speed limit where you have to floor it from a stop to get to those speeds?

And if you do? The “limit“ just starts to appear at 75 mph. You wouldn’t even notice it then.

Definitely agree on your other points though. But for normal, legal driving…… GT delivers.

Perhaps you missed my posts a few weeks back after we got our 4X back from HVBJB replacement. So, a GT can do this is 25-35F conditions and be almost exactly as quick as in optimal temps? The below times are within .1-.2 secs of what it does in 75-85F temps. I thought you’d get grey jail bars from hell in that case. I should have made that more clear.

 

[Mach1E]

Perhaps you missed my posts a few weeks back after we got our 4X back from HVBJB replacement. So, a GT can do this is 25-35F conditions and be almost exactly as quick as in optimal temps? The below times are within .1-.2 secs of what it does in 75-85F temps. I thought you’d get grey jail bars from hell in that case. I should have made that more clear.

What’s the argument now, speed or temperature?

You seem to be changing the narrative.

If you want to change the narrative even more you could point out that neither car will perform at a 20% or less state of charge.

But what good would that do since no one was making that point?

To answer though, yes, the GT is still plenty fast in cold weather if you precondition.

This thread explains it better. Preconditioning “gets the gray out,” some have only 1 bar or zero even in the cold:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/does-preconditioning-really-matter.13006/

It’s almost like it’s built out of the same stuff, using the same battery as your premium…….

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

What’s the argument now, speed or temperature?

You seem to be changing the narrative.

If you want to change the narrative even more you could point out that neither car will perform at a 20% or less state of charge.

But what good would that do since no one was making that point?

To answer though, yes, the GT is still plenty fast in cold weather if you precondition.

This thread explains it better. Preconditioning “gets the gray out,” some have only 1 bar or zero even in the cold:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/does-preconditioning-really-matter.13006/

It’s almost like it’s built out of the same stuff, using the same battery as your premium…….

What’s the argument now, speed or temperature?

You seem to be changing the narrative.

If you want to change the narrative even more you could point out that neither car will perform at a 20% or less state of charge.

But what good would that do since no one was making that point?

To answer though, yes, the GT is still plenty fast in cold weather if you precondition.

This thread explains it better. Preconditioning “gets the gray out,” some have only 1 bar or zero even in the cold:

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/does-preconditioning-really-matter.13006/

It’s almost like it’s built out of the same stuff, using the same battery as your premium…….

Well, as soon as you said the GT can’t be made to spit the bit at the speeds I cited the narrative did change, technically. At least for me ?. Because we’ve shown that at cold temps it’s a far worse drop off than a 4X. At least if I recall @Murse-In-Airy and his data correctly. Not everyone lives in Florida. And, we never precondition the 4X so that’s not a factor in my cold runs above.

 

[Auto Motive]

I wonder how everyone feels. Last night friends asked me if I’d buy the GTPE again. I had to honestly answer NO. I love almost everything about what this car is but the 5 second limiter is to humbling. I was sold a Tesla competitor. The whole 3.5 0-60 and all. No where was I told after 80 there’s nothing left and your top speed will be 125. Granted this isn’t an everyday problem but for the most expensive and advanced GT ever sold, it’s embarrassing to know you’ll lose to your friends wife in the Tesla or BMW. Never mind the Etron. I guess as long as I stick to light to light battles and traffic circles, I’m good. Facing the facts, I live more there than the 1/4 miles walk to 14+ something. I’ll likely sell it before I re-register it!

Red lite to red lite in rural Butler County Pa route 8 north thru Valencia to Butler is red lite racing heaven. Our GTPE has an appetite for ICE muscle and so far it's 15-0. We all pull in to Sheets gas station to discus 1st the ev we are driving. 2nd talking about ev torque. We are in our 70s and having a blast. Most are very nice especially them remembering us with our kids having a Challenger 392 and Shelby mustang conv supercharged with nitrous at the local cruises. Every weekend spring to fall so many top cruises in Western Pa. Beaver Pa get 2500 cruise cars every year.

I would also not buy mine again in the MME's current state. I went the standard GT route and I'm still pretty upset about the 5 second limit AND the bait-and-switch marketing material that made it seem as if all GT owners were getting the larger Brembo brakes. The 125 MPH top speed is cool with me since I've never hit faster than that on a track day in any car. Finally, Ford is super slow to roll out OTA updates to fix one of the many bugs that the car is plagued with. I'd be even more upset if I spent the $5,000 more for the performance edition.

I agree Ford knew that many early buyers would not have jump in on the Gtpe. My wife wanted it for a grand Kid hauler for around town and car cruises. Me personally would have probably bought the model 3 performance. I am looking forward to the Dodge ev offerings in the next few years. I love my daughters 392 srt8 challenger and son in laws Shelby convertible supercharged with nitrous. I can say I am 15-0 so far red lite to red lite against modern muscle. Most of them at first didnt even know it was a ev mustang. We pull into a sheetz to talk about my 5 car length wins and most are very nice. They remember us from local cruises. At least prices are way up in trades of the GT so maybe a model 3 or y perf. Could be bought for no loss.

 

[Kevin P]

At least prices are way up in trades of the GT so maybe a model 3 or y perf. Could be bought for no loss.

Trade/resale values of GT/PE have dropped off a cliff the last few months. I sold my GT for $68k in June, two weeks before the HVBJB recall was announced. Probably couldn't get $55k now, had I kept it.

 

[Murse-In-Airy]

Well, as soon as you said the GT can’t be made to spit the bit at the speeds I cited the narrative did change, technically. At least for me ?. Because we’ve shown that at cold temps it’s a far worse drop off than a 4X. At least if I recall @Murse-In-Airy and his data correctly. Not everyone lives in Florida. And, we never precondition the 4X so that’s not a factor in my cold runs above.

You are correct. My GT-PE ain’t ? in the winter without preconditioning. Now that winter is back I hope to line the GT-PE up against the 4XAWD soon. My kid is older now and may be more comfortable helping me experiment some.

 

[steve.panse]

I’ve had the ‘22 GT-PE for almost 2 months now, I’d absolutely buy it again. Super fun and fast. Let’s be realistic, it’s a road car, not a track car…and so the 5-second limit isn’t nearly the issue you’d believe from all the complaints. I’m happy to give up limited power >75 mph with the blistering acceleration at low speed. Glad to have Magnaride and not be wishing I had upgraded. That said, I’m sure I’ll be upset to replace tires at 15k, but I’m not there yet.

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