Drive for two hours - Charge for an hour road trip.

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Out of curiosity, what is the max mileage you have gotten.

my range in the summer is almost 300 miles. Obviously I haven’t traveled that far but I get 3.1-3.34 Mp KW during the summer, in the northeast where speed limit is lower than other areas.
Across my 25,000 miles of road trips, I've averaged 2.8 MPK on most (AWD ER). 2.4 was the worst (winter), 3.0 the best (summer). Most of those are 75-80 MPH speed limits.
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Across my 25,000 miles of road trips, I've averaged 2.8 MPK on most (AWD ER). 2.4 was the worst (winter), 3.0 the best (summer). Most of those are 75-80 MPH speed limits.
Makes sense, our speed limits are lower and I tend to drive the MME slower than my other car , maybe 5 miles above of the speed limit.
 
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Makes sense, our speed limits are lower and I tend to drive the MME slower than my other car , maybe 5 miles of the speed limit.
We don't compromise. Normal speed, normal cabin heating and cooling (71-72F). Unless we're desperate which only happened once (strong headwind and arrived at 2% instead of the usual ~20% for that leg).
 

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We don't compromise. Normal speed, normal cabin heating and cooling (71-72F). Unless we're desperate which only happened once (strong headwind and arrived at 2% instead of the usual ~20% for that leg).
Same here. It’s a car. I dive it like one.
 


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We don't compromise. Normal speed, normal cabin heating and cooling (71-72F). Unless we're desperate which only happened once (strong headwind and arrived at 2% instead of the usual ~20% for that leg).
I don’t compromise, our max speed limits in NY area are 65 and many lower, 55, so I generally go 5 mph over speed limit, ride is enjoyable and I get better range

1 time I had an issue was here in Florida, with temps getting into 40’s and very windy, I ended up going 5 below speed limit to extend my range.
 

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It’s like everyone’s experience is anecdotal and usage varies
Except that claiming 3+ hours highway driving between charges just doesn’t add up. And I think you know it.
 

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Except that claiming 3+ hours highway driving between charges just doesn’t add up. And I think you know it.
It does if you start with 100% with an extended battery. I have done it here in Florida and up north during the summer. Haven’t tried in the winter .
 

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Do you understand how a heatpump works? At 35 and below it struggles. 45 to 60 it shines.
Depends on the heat pump. Modern cold weather heat pumps work well below freezing, some into the single digits or even lower. Not sure about the state of automotive-grade heat pumps, but the technology is available to make them work well below freezing.
 

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It does if you start with 100% with an extended battery. I have done it here in Florida and up north during the summer. Haven’t tried in the winter .
My point exactly. You had much better temps than the OP, and I suspect you were driving under 70mph. Can it be done at lower highway speeds under optimal conditions? Sure. That is an outlier.

The OP’s 2 hours of highway driving to 1 hour charging ratio is a much more realistic measure for winter road tripping.

The reason I’m not letting this go is that some of the claims being made in this thread are not realistic. People need to be HONEST about the pros and cons of owning the Mach E.

And the biggest con is DCFC during road trips. Unless you enjoy the meticulous preparation and planning, the uncertainty of whether the chargers will work, or the leisure of 40min+ stops every 2hrs or so - but that’s weird, man. Not saying it’s wrong, but that is not characteristic of most people.

Let’s just be honest.
 
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Do you understand how a heatpump works? At 35 and below it struggles. 45 to 60 it shines.
If it is using motor waste heat, like Tesla and GM, then this is not an issue. A person who got a Hummer early on, road tripped it last winter and got very little range loss. His fast charges all started at 250kw to 300kw even in cold weather due to preconditioning using the motor waste heat.
 

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A lot of people’s comments are dependent on where they live or travel to.

I have made several trips of over 250 miles each way. Not real long distance but I did have to stop to charge to play it safe.

not once did I have an issue. Yes a unit may not have worked but others did. I would think the east coast (north and South) where I travel seems to have better coverage and more options Than other parts of the country.

is it easy like ICE, no. But considering I am retired, it’s no big deal spending the extra time to plan and have a backup plan.

it’s not for everyone. That’s for sure
...except for West Virginia.
 

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That seems worse that I have seen in our Mach-e. Even in lower temps, I can usually get about 2.5 to 3 hours of driving. What speed are you driving at?
work out the math though. You’ll always be better off driving as fast as you can and getting worse efficiency if your goal is to get to your destination as fast as possible. It’s more likely that differences you and OP are seeing are due to difference in trim or other factors
 

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Do you understand how a heatpump works? At 35 and below it struggles. 45 to 60 it shines.
You obviously haven’t used modern heat pumps from the last 20 years. New home mini splits are amazingly efficient, even below freezing. The heat pump in my Tesla model 3 did a great job down to 25F (the coldest it got while I owned that car). I’m not saying they are great at the extreme temps some people apparently deal with (-30F? Screw living there), but they would absolutely improve the crappy range I get in my MME at 30-45F. There’s no excuse for having such range loss in above-freezing, mild climates.
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