Question About Cyclist / Pedestrian Detection

[Jimrpa]

Last night, I was out with friends. Around 10:00 PM, I was driving through a city intersection, and a cyclist decided to ignore the traffic lights and rode across the intersection, in front of me, from right to left. Following behind the cyclist was a pedestrian. Both the cyclist and the pedestrian were dressed in dark colors. The cyclist was riding a dark color bike with no lights or reflectors.
I did not see these people until the last minute when I slammed on my brakes - probably about 5 feet from the cyclist. Of course, the two of them continued obliviously.
My question: shouldn’t the forward collision system done something? Display a warning? Sound an alert? SLAM ON THE BLOODY BRAKES???!!!
I’ve had a few instances now, where the car seemed oblivious to potential forward collisions?

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[Mach-Lee]

Nope, doesn't do cyclists moving right to left. Failed that test during NCAP testing.

 

[RickMachE]

WARNING: In situations where the
vehicle camera has limited detection
capability, this may reduce system
performance. These situations include
but are not limited to direct or low
sunlight, vehicles at night without tail
lights, unconventional vehicle types,
pedestrians with complex backgrounds,
running pedestrians, partly obscured
pedestrians, or pedestrians that the
system cannot distinguish from a group.
Failure to take care may result in the loss
of control of your vehicle, serious
personal injury or death.

Pedestrian Detection Limitations

Pedestrian detection is active at speeds
up to 50 mph (80 km/h).
Pedestrian detection functions optimally
when detected hazards are clearly
identifiable. System performance may
reduce in situations where pedestrians are
running, partly obscured, have a complex
background, or cannot be distinguished
from a group.

Cyclist Detection Limitations

Cyclist detection is active at speeds up to
50 mph (80 km/h).
Cyclist detection functions optimally when
detected hazards are clearly identifiable.
System performance may reduce in
situations where cyclists are fast-moving,
partly obscured, have a complex
background, or cannot be distinguished
from a group.

 

[mateo]

Nope, doesn't do cyclists moving right to left. Failed that test during NCAP testing.

Must have been the lighting. ?

 

[MachEMaster]

Last night, I was out with friends. Around 10:00 PM, I was driving through a city intersection, and a cyclist decided to ignore the traffic lights and rode across the intersection, in front of me, from right to left. Following behind the cyclist was a pedestrian. Both the cyclist and the pedestrian were dressed in dark colors. The cyclist was riding a dark color bike with no lights or reflectors.
I did not see these people until the last minute when I slammed on my brakes - probably about 5 feet from the cyclist. Of course, the two of them continued obliviously.
My question: shouldn’t the forward collision system done something? Display a warning? Sound an alert? SLAM ON THE BLOODY BRAKES???!!!
I’ve had a few instances now, where the car seemed oblivious to potential forward collisions?

I had a similar scare, where a pedestrian was standing in the middle of a dark rainy road. I only saw his lower legs and sneakers, and was able to swing the car into the oncoming lane. There was no Warning. That is when i decided to install the Thinkware U1000 dashcam.

 

[Jimrpa]

Nope, doesn't do cyclists moving right to left. Failed that test during NCAP testing.

That pretty much seals it, thanks! The video where it plows into the cyclist is EXACTLY the situation I encountered.
Come on Ford, make our cars safe to drive in Philadelphia?????

 

[MellowJohnny]

Good job reacting Jim - I've had a few "holy sh*t" situations and I thank those powerful Brembos each time.

Not completely related, but I find the rear pedestrian detection is useless. I've been surprised twice - once in the dark and once in the rain. I'm more careful now

 

[RickMachE]

Good job reacting Jim - I've had a few "holy sh*t" situations and I thank those powerful Brembos each time.

Not completely related, but I find the rear pedestrian detection is useless. I've been surprised twice - once in the dark and once in the rain. I'm more careful now

There is no rear pedestrian detection...

 

[RickMachE]

Last night, rainy, student crossing in dark. Never saw her. Almost saved someone tuition.

 

[Logal727]

Nope, doesn't do cyclists moving right to left. Failed that test during NCAP testing.

Works in reverse drive. I’ve had it do a cross traffic alert when a bicyclist was crossing behind me

 

[Mrn]

I've barely missed people with SPS multiple times driving at night...Dark clothing, no flashlight, crossing without a crosswalk, probably drunk, high, or just clueless.

SPS...Stupid Pedestrian Syndrome...?

 

[MellowJohnny]

There is no rear pedestrian detection...

Officially no...but you'd think the Reverse Brake Assist's ultrasonic sensors would pick up "a disturbance in the Force...". My XC-90 does a super job of it.

The manual does say "If the system detects an obstacle behind your vehicle, it provides a warning through the rear parking aid or cross traffic alert system."

I consider a human to be an "object", so I'm a bit surprised it does not detect anything.

Neither here nor there, I've learned to pay extra attention.

 

[Mach-Lee]

Officially no...but you'd think the Reverse Brake Assist's ultrasonic sensors would pick up "a disturbance in the Force...". My XC-90 does a super job of it.

The manual does say "If the system detects an obstacle behind your vehicle, it provides a warning through the rear parking aid or cross traffic alert system."

I consider a human to be an "object", so I'm a bit surprised it does not detect anything.

Neither here nor there, I've learned to pay extra attention.

If someone walks behind the car while it's backing it should pick that up and stop if the camera isn't too dirty, the person walking is in the path of the vehicle (between the white lines), and collision is imminent. It might not work if you're going really slow either.

The ultrasonic sensors don't pick up objects far enough away to be used for primary pedestrian detection, that is done by the camera. Ultrasonics are only used when you are backing slowly towards a solid object like a trash can.

 

[tannerk89]

That pretty much seals it, thanks! The video where it plows into the cyclist is EXACTLY the situation I encountered.
Come on Ford, make our cars safe to drive in Philadelphia?????

No one is safe in Philadelphia right now ?

 

[mdolan92869]

If someone walks behind the car while it's backing it should pick that up and stop if the camera isn't too dirty, the person walking is in the path of the vehicle (between the white lines), and collision is imminent. It might not work if you're going really slow either.

The ultrasonic sensors don't pick up objects far enough away to be used for primary pedestrian detection, that is done by the camera. Ultrasonics are only used when you are backing slowly towards a solid object like a trash can.

Or if you're backing slowly out of your driveway that has a bit of a pitch. It senses the road and slams on the brakes. Have to sit there and try again. If I go fast enough I can just back out like a normal person.

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