1000 miles in. Thoughts on my 23 GTPE

Silver MTB

Active Member
First Name
Kevin
Joined
May 13, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
36
Reaction score
36
Location
Coopersburg PA
Vehicles
2023 Mach E GT Performance
Occupation
GM
Country flag
I've had quite a few cars and this one is among my favorites. I can't believe this is Ford's first BEV effort. I'm not saying it's perfect, but my complaints are few, and fall squarely in the nitpick category. I will mention that I have a 23 GTPE and Magneride dampers make a huge difference in ride control and quality compared to the premium that I test drove a year ago. My experience with non-magneride is limited to that test drive.

I've had the opportunity to spend a few hours on backcountry roads and find it to be, perhaps a bit artificial, but very capable, and a lot of fun. I like unbridled extend. I wish it didn't kill one pedal. It says "track only" but at 6 or 7 tenths you are barely tickling the P zeros and the nannies are still there if you get overexcited. I fight calling it playful because every time I start to say it, I pull it back because it's a 5000 pound car, but damnit, it's playful in a GT kind of way. When you charge out of a turn, it lifts the front end a bit, and you can get a bit of torque steer, and even when vectoring to the rear in extend, you get some understeer, but it's all very controllable. We have definitely reached an understanding! The brake pedal is very light, but modulates nicely once you get its touch. I drive it in one pedal, unbridled, most of the time, and Ford has done a nice job of balancing regen and mechanical breaking, which is no small feat. It just requires a light touch. Pedal mashers will find themselves alternatively pinned to the seat back and the seatbelt.

We did a BlueCruise drive of about 70 miles each way and was impressed by how little intervention it required. I completely trust it. It moves away from trucks while staying in its lane. You can see why it wants your hands on the wheel when it asks. It even avoided a left drifting texter approaching the right rear quarter. I honked. It was passive on that front. Lane changes are cool. I haven't spent a lot of time with semi-autonomous systems, but this works really well from the viewpoint of the uninitiated.

The infotainment system works very well. I've had one volume issue that was cured by a reboot (nitpick). I like the volume knob. I wish the recirc button was on the main screen. Please do that, Ford! Other than that, I don't mind the soft HVAC buttons. I was predisposed to hate them. It's pretty responsive. I rarely double tap, and I have a glass protector on the screen.

The driver's display is a must and gives you what you need to know. I like the nav prompts, and love that they are pulled from Waze on Android Auto. Well done! Wireless android auto works better than it should. Google is working overtime to break that (known issue). Sync takes a few tries after an Android Auto update, but once it connects the first time, it's seamless. Note: I come directly from an Acura. My infotainment bar is extremely low.

Seats are comfy. The interior is very nice. The B&O sound system is A+. Build quality is very high. We were looking at a Volvo XC40 Recharge and this is comparable. I like the interior and exterior design direction. I think it looks great. It looks more compact than it is until you park next to an ICE Mustang.

It's a big car, but it really doesn't feel like one. It's not exactly tossable, but it is very smooth in transition and can be coaxed smoothly into oversteer with a bit of diplomacy. It wants to snap, but it doesn't have to. It's pleasant in unbridled mode. You can have a bit of fun when twisty bits present themselves without being a danger to humanity. It quite simply goes, and stops, faster than nearly anything that you're likely to encounter with four wheels, and translates its motive forces to the road in an easily manageable manner. If that sounds a bit emotionally detached, perhaps it is, it's not a BRZ or a3 series BMW, but it is a lot of fun!

The range gauge is accurate. I have a hitch rack that carries 2 enduro e-bikes (150 lbs on the hitch - an easy 350 pound tongue load). I barely know they are there when driving, and they don't drastically affect range. The frunk is fantastic for stinky, muddy MTB gear and holds everything for two. It has enough clearance to manage an innocent access road. It charges overnight from twenty percent with the cable that came in the trunk and goes just over 260 miles to dead. That more than works for me. I'll get the Tesla adapter when it comes out and will try a road trip next year.

That's all I have so far. I thought I was going to have one more fire breathing V8 before going hybrid or possibly BEV. We have been trying to lessen our footprint and this was largely a 'responsible" decision. Thank you, Ford Performance, for making grown-up fun! I have no regrets!
Huge thanks to our friends at Haldeman Ford in Allentown for making it all happen with no nonsense whatsoever. Great buying experience - 5 stars!
Sponsored

 

RRMatey

Member
First Name
Ky
Joined
May 30, 2023
Threads
1
Messages
5
Reaction score
2
Location
Dallas TX
Vehicles
2021 Mustang Mach E GT
Country flag
Thanks for this write up! I’m interested to find out which Hitch you have on your GTPE since I’m looking at getting one for my GT!

I've had quite a few cars and this one is among my favorites. I can't believe this is Ford's first BEV effort. I'm not saying it's perfect, but my complaints are few, and fall squarely in the nitpick category. I will mention that I have a 23 GTPE and Magneride dampers make a huge difference in ride control and quality compared to the premium that I test drove a year ago. My experience with non-magneride is limited to that test drive.

I've had the opportunity to spend a few hours on backcountry roads and find it to be, perhaps a bit artificial, but very capable, and a lot of fun. I like unbridled extend. I wish it didn't kill one pedal. It says "track only" but at 6 or 7 tenths you are barely tickling the P zeros and the nannies are still there if you get overexcited. I fight calling it playful because every time I start to say it, I pull it back because it's a 5000 pound car, but damnit, it's playful in a GT kind of way. When you charge out of a turn, it lifts the front end a bit, and you can get a bit of torque steer, and even when vectoring to the rear in extend, you get some understeer, but it's all very controllable. We have definitely reached an understanding! The brake pedal is very light, but modulates nicely once you get its touch. I drive it in one pedal, unbridled, most of the time, and Ford has done a nice job of balancing regen and mechanical breaking, which is no small feat. It just requires a light touch. Pedal mashers will find themselves alternatively pinned to the seat back and the seatbelt.

We did a BlueCruise drive of about 70 miles each way and was impressed by how little intervention it required. I completely trust it. It moves away from trucks while staying in its lane. You can see why it wants your hands on the wheel when it asks. It even avoided a left drifting texter approaching the right rear quarter. I honked. It was passive on that front. Lane changes are cool. I haven't spent a lot of time with semi-autonomous systems, but this works really well from the viewpoint of the uninitiated.

The infotainment system works very well. I've had one volume issue that was cured by a reboot (nitpick). I like the volume knob. I wish the recirc button was on the main screen. Please do that, Ford! Other than that, I don't mind the soft HVAC buttons. I was predisposed to hate them. It's pretty responsive. I rarely double tap, and I have a glass protector on the screen.

The driver's display is a must and gives you what you need to know. I like the nav prompts, and love that they are pulled from Waze on Android Auto. Well done! Wireless android auto works better than it should. Google is working overtime to break that (known issue). Sync takes a few tries after an Android Auto update, but once it connects the first time, it's seamless. Note: I come directly from an Acura. My infotainment bar is extremely low.

Seats are comfy. The interior is very nice. The B&O sound system is A+. Build quality is very high. We were looking at a Volvo XC40 Recharge and this is comparable. I like the interior and exterior design direction. I think it looks great. It looks more compact than it is until you park next to an ICE Mustang.

It's a big car, but it really doesn't feel like one. It's not exactly tossable, but it is very smooth in transition and can be coaxed smoothly into oversteer with a bit of diplomacy. It wants to snap, but it doesn't have to. It's pleasant in unbridled mode. You can have a bit of fun when twisty bits present themselves without being a danger to humanity. It quite simply goes, and stops, faster than nearly anything that you're likely to encounter with four wheels, and translates its motive forces to the road in an easily manageable manner. If that sounds a bit emotionally detached, perhaps it is, it's not a BRZ or a3 series BMW, but it is a lot of fun!

The range gauge is accurate. I have a hitch rack that carries 2 enduro e-bikes (150 lbs on the hitch - an easy 350 pound tongue load). I barely know they are there when driving, and they don't drastically affect range. The frunk is fantastic for stinky, muddy MTB gear and holds everything for two. It has enough clearance to manage an innocent access road. It charges overnight from twenty percent with the cable that came in the trunk and goes just over 260 miles to dead. That more than works for me. I'll get the Tesla adapter when it comes out and will try a road trip next year.

That's all I have so far. I thought I was going to have one more fire breathing V8 before going hybrid or possibly BEV. We have been trying to lessen our footprint and this was largely a 'responsible" decision. Thank you, Ford Performance, for making grown-up fun! I have no regrets!
Huge thanks to our friends at Haldeman Ford in Allentown for making it all happen with no nonsense whatsoever. Great buying experience - 5 stars!
 
OP
OP
Silver MTB

Silver MTB

Active Member
First Name
Kevin
Joined
May 13, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
36
Reaction score
36
Location
Coopersburg PA
Vehicles
2023 Mach E GT Performance
Occupation
GM
Country flag
4500 miles and still loving Mach e life! Our hitch is a Draw-Tite. I may have whiffed on the spelling. We have a Kuat Piston Pro X rack which carries 2 heavy e-mtbs very nicely! My wife has a full power Levo now which weighs a few pounds more than the one in the pics. Still no problem.

The hitch is solid as a rock. Our dealer does a lot of custom work with the shop that installed it. They did very nice work. Looks like a factory installation.

Hope this helps!

Ford Mustang Mach-E 1000 miles in. Thoughts on my 23 GTPE PXL_20230525_224302223


Ford Mustang Mach-E 1000 miles in. Thoughts on my 23 GTPE PXL_20230525_214359069


Ford Mustang Mach-E 1000 miles in. Thoughts on my 23 GTPE PXL_20230527_125633898
 

Vulnox

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2021
Threads
9
Messages
1,087
Reaction score
1,802
Location
Livonia, MI
Vehicles
2024 F-150 Lightning Platinum, 2025 Mach-E Premium AWD ER
Country flag
Glad you're enjoying it! It is an incredibly fun car to drive. The MME is my wife's and the F-150 is mine, and I love the F-150, but look for reasons to steal her car any chance I can. You just can't beat the ability to enter a corner and accelerate out like this car does, even if just driving it at public road friendly speeds, it's how smooth every action is that still makes day to day driving feel so much quicker. It's certainly comfortable too.

It was noted for a while that once the legacy automakers bring their experience making cars that are nice to own to the EV segment that has so far mainly been held by young automakers that lean on just being fast or high tech, that the competition will get really interesting and I think the MME was a great first example of it. It's not perfect, but it does more things very well than probably any car we have had recently.
 

Billyk24

Well-Known Member
First Name
William
Joined
Nov 29, 2019
Threads
117
Messages
2,330
Reaction score
1,313
Location
PA
Vehicles
Ford C-Max Energi, Premium Mach-E ordered
Country flag
Thanks for this write up! I’m interested to find out which Hitch you have on your GTPE since I’m looking at getting one for my GT!
Ecohitch is another option.
 


zackary_b

Member
First Name
Zackary
Joined
Jun 14, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
14
Reaction score
9
Location
Utah
Vehicles
22 Mach E
Country flag
When you don't have your bike rack installed how far out does the hitch extend? I have been trying to decide between draw-tite, curt, stealth, eco and tork... Not sure which one is the best.
 
OP
OP
Silver MTB

Silver MTB

Active Member
First Name
Kevin
Joined
May 13, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
36
Reaction score
36
Location
Coopersburg PA
Vehicles
2023 Mach E GT Performance
Occupation
GM
Country flag
It's recessed about one inch under the bumper. You can see the end of the receiver in this pic. Sorry the rack is on. It's pretty much always on!

Ford Mustang Mach-E 1000 miles in. Thoughts on my 23 GTPE PXL_20230904_183231590
 

LincolnLuvr

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2021
Threads
52
Messages
882
Reaction score
605
Location
VA
Vehicles
currently car-less, but hope to get a MME!
Country flag
Great review! Is the GTPE ride less bouncy than the Premium and have any of your rear passengers experienced motion sickness?
 

HuntingPudel

Well-Known Member
First Name
Steve
Joined
Mar 23, 2021
Threads
89
Messages
12,952
Reaction score
17,402
Location
Bay Area, CA
Vehicles
2024 MME GT with Performance Upgrade, 1979 Fire-Am, 1972 K/5 Blazer
Occupation
Engineering
Country flag
Great review! Is the GTPE ride less bouncy than the Premium and have any of your rear passengers experienced motion sickness?
It’s funny. I have only ridden in GT-PEs up until recently and the non-PE I rode in had the Konis installed, so I really haven’t experienced the uncontrolled rebound oscillations. Nobody so far has complained that my GT-PE makes them sick unless I am hammering the tires in the corners. ??
 
OP
OP
Silver MTB

Silver MTB

Active Member
First Name
Kevin
Joined
May 13, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
36
Reaction score
36
Location
Coopersburg PA
Vehicles
2023 Mach E GT Performance
Occupation
GM
Country flag
Rebound damping is greatly improved, as is body roll, even in engage mode. The MME wasn't on my radar until I drove the GTPE. Then I bought it! I've crossed the 5K mile threshold and we still love it. It does everything we ask of it and does it well. Nobody has thrown up to date! ?

Note: This is a heavy car. Don't expect a Lotus. It's a mid size SUV that makes you forget that. It's a lot of fun, but you have to remember it does weigh 5000 pounds. It's a remarkably fun 5000 pounds when driven accordingly, all by wire, but it likes to be guided more than tossed. It rewards that understanding. Just my 2 cents.
 
OP
OP
Silver MTB

Silver MTB

Active Member
First Name
Kevin
Joined
May 13, 2023
Threads
2
Messages
36
Reaction score
36
Location
Coopersburg PA
Vehicles
2023 Mach E GT Performance
Occupation
GM
Country flag
It’s funny. I have only ridden in GT-PEs up until recently and the non-PE I rode in had the Konis installed, so I really haven’t experienced the uncontrolled rebound oscillations. Nobody so far has complained that my GT-PE makes them sick unless I am hammering the tires in the corners. ??
I'm about to go to all seasons. I'm curious how much of a difference that will make with handling. I've easily got another summer on the summer Pirellis, which makes me happy!
Sponsored

 
 







Top