Replace summer tires?

[Crabby Hamster]

Bought my GTPE in June. Came with the Pirelli summer tires. Tires have 4k miles on them. I live in Atlanta and could travel to TN during the winter months.

Do I *need* to replace these tires for winter or can I hold off until I get enough mileage on them. I hate "wasting" a set of tires; I live in a condo and can't store tires for later. Can I even sell them? Curious what other people have done in a similar situation.

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[RKinWA]

Bought my GTPE in June. Came with the Pirelli summer tires. Tires have 4k miles on them. I live in Atlanta and could travel to TN during the winter months.

Do I *need* to replace these tires for winter or can I hold off until I get enough mileage on them. I hate "wasting" a set of tires; I live in a condo and can't store tires for later. Can I even sell them? Curious what other people have done in a similar situation.

I'm in the same boat. I bought my GTPE in June also, and mine also have 4k on them, and am considering the same thing. I live in Seattle. We get some snow but mostly it's the rain, lots of it in the winter, and I've read the summer tires aren't the best in rain. I also don't have anywhere to store them so will just let them go, but you're right, seems like a waste.

 

[Mach-Lee]

Do I *need* to replace these tires for winter or can I hold off until I get enough mileage on them. I hate "wasting" a set of tires; I live in a condo and can't store tires for later. Can I even sell them? Curious what other people have done in a similar situation.

Yes, if you drive when it’s less than 40°F you will crack and ruin them.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

You can sell them, but you will get pennies on the dollar. Check on eBay to price what they’re selling for.

 

[RickMachE]

Yes, if you drive when it’s less than 40°F you will crack and ruin them.

45. And they cannot be stored below 20.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/pirelli-p-zero-tires-are-shot.22242/post-520286

 

[Crabby Hamster]

These are all helpful, if a little discouraging, replies. Thank you.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Well, look at it this way: @scoopman got about 4K out of his original tires. You’re already on track to exceed his tires’ lifetime. ??

I went from the Bay Area to WA to get my dog in May of 2022. On the way back we encountered snow and temps as low as 25F. I was pooping bricks the whole time. My tires are fine. I am not recommending that you drive outside of the suggested operating window. Just offering a flip side of the coin in case you get caught out in unexpected weather. I did it the one time and would poop bricks if I got caught out again (probably worse than the first time since it had already happened once). ??

Selling used tires is a hit or miss proposition. They aren’t worth a lot on the market. A tire dealer would give you less than cents on the dollar. Selling them yourself may take a lot of time and still not be worth it. ?‍?

 

[tuminatr]

Get yourself a good set of all season or all weather tires and you'll be good. And depending if you care about range a set of EV tuned all season could actually offer more range than the pirelli summer tires.

 

[Crabby Hamster]

Selling is less about the money and more about the waste. But I’m in no position to haul nonetheless sell four tires out of my parking garage. I’ll live. Reluctantly. But I’ll live.
Planning to get the Michelin Pilot AS 4 tires from Costco. That’ll save my sphincter from the bricks.

 

[tuminatr]

Selling is less about the money and more about the waste. But I’m in no position to haul nonetheless sell four tires out of my parking garage. I’ll live. Reluctantly. But I’ll live.
Planning to get the Michelin Pilot AS 4 tires from Costco. That’ll save my sphincter from the bricks.

Those are really good tires. However they aren't ev tuned so you likely to see a reduction in range if you drive on the highway a lot.

 

[Teslaeata]

Get yourself a good set of all season or all weather tires and you'll be good. And depending if you care about range a set of EV tuned all season could actually offer more range than the pirelli summer tires.

THIS

Mich Cross Climate 2 I’d recommend.

 

[tuminatr]

THIS

Much Cross Climate 2 I’d recommend.

For the moderate weather areas I would not recommend the CC, the Conti DWS06+, pilot sport 4 A/S, Vredestein Hypertrac would be better choices or even the new Hankook Ion

 

[Larry Paul]

Bought my GTPE in June. Came with the Pirelli summer tires. Tires have 4k miles on them. I live in Atlanta and could travel to TN during the winter months.

Do I *need* to replace these tires for winter or can I hold off until I get enough mileage on them. I hate "wasting" a set of tires; I live in a condo and can't store tires for later. Can I even sell them? Curious what other people have done in a similar situation.

Regarding safety not to mention destruction of the tires: Please don't rely on "opinions" but look at facts from credible sources:

As temperatures drop into the 40s, a summer performance tire's tread compound changes from a pliable elastic to an inflexible plastic, drastically reducing traction capabilities. The tire industry calls this process the "glass transition." And, without traction, your vehicle will have a hard time staying on the road!

In fact, should summer performance tires even be exposed to near- or below-freezing temperatures, tread compound cracking or tread block chipping can occur. Once a tire has been damaged in this way, it will need to be replaced.

The above is from:

https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/can-i-drive-summer-performance-tires-in-cold-temperatures

Another credible source:

Rubber compounds on summer tires will also stiffen when temperatures drop below 40 degrees Fahrenheit, so even if there is no snow or ice, the tire will still lose traction. Winter weather may also cause your tires to lose their elasticity, making them crack.

https://www.tirereview.com/summer-tires-in-winter/

Another credible source says:

Winter tires, all-season-tires and summer tires differ in the pliability and durability of their rubber at different temperatures. Tire engineers call it "glass transition temperature": Get them cold enough and every tire will have the grip of a Formica kitchen counter. For a race tire, it might be 40 Fahrenheit. For a winter tire it could be 60 degrees below zero. Summer tire tread starts becoming Formica-like somewhere just below freezing. Most all-season tires are still pliable below zero, but some "ultra-high-performance all-season" tires start losing grip well before that.

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants...are/safe-driving/using-summer-tires-in-winter

And from Pirelli directly:

From 45⁰ F and under, summer tires have longer braking distances, and drastically less grip on snow.

https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/driving-and-tire-tips/safety/tire-pressure-markings-safety

There are MANY more credible links...but you can research more if you want. Bottom line is safety is a big risk if you don't change tires.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Selling is less about the money and more about the waste. But I’m in no position to haul nonetheless sell four tires out of my parking garage. I’ll live. Reluctantly. But I’ll live.
Planning to get the Michelin Pilot AS 4 tires from Costco. That’ll save my sphincter from the bricks.

Yeah, I would guess bricks would be harder on a hamster’s sphincter than on a Poodle’s. ??

 

[HuntingPudel]

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And from Pirelli directly:

From 45⁰ F and under, summer tires have longer braking distances, and drastically less grip on snow.

https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/driving-and-tire-tips/safety/tire-pressure-markings-safety

There are MANY more credible links...but you can research more if you want. Bottom line is safety is a big risk if you don't change tires.

Yeah, I should have mentioned in my earlier post that most manufacturers recommend against running the summer compounds below 45F and won’t warrant them if they are. The one that applies directly to us is the Pirelli source, since the MME summer tire is a Pirelli. ??

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