Mach-E vs. 2024 Porsche Macan EV - design, specs, price

[Ghost Ryder]

You’re right when it comes to ICE vehicles from Porsche but when we are talking about EVs, range becomes important

The thing is range = larger battery = more weight. And weight is the antithesis of sporty driving that Porsche is aiming for.

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[kennethjk]

The thing is range = larger battery = more weight. And weight is the antithesis of sporty driving that Porsche is aiming for.

Well, the car does seem to get at least 300 miles so that is what they are looking for, as technology improves so will sporty driving. But if I had to bet my money on a car company coming up with the right blend of everything , I would bet on Porsche. Not perfect for sure.

besides this is an SUV, not a sports car, they have more latitude compared to say the 911

Even the ICE Macan S that I had , had limitations. tall heavy cars can only do so much

 

[tmrqs]

The thing is range = larger battery = more weight. And weight is the antithesis of sporty driving that Porsche is aiming for.

There’s also the drag coefficient, which seems significantly improved on the EV version of the Macan vs ICE.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

Well, the car does seem to get at least 300 miles so that is what they are looking for, as technology improves so will sporty driving. But if I had to bet my money on a car company coming up with the right blend of everything , I would bet on Porsche. Not perfect for sure.

besides this is an SUV, not a sports car, they have more latitude compared to say the 911

Even the ICE Macan S that I had , had limitations. tall heavy cars can only do so much

It's all a balance, and I trust that Porsche will tune it well. But there's still compromises. Hard to hide 5000 pounds. I'm going to guess that the Macan EV is going to be north of that.
I'm looking forward to driving one, it's on my short list to replace the MYP or GTPE.

Now if they will just price is reasonably.

 

[mkhuffman]

Now if they will just price is reasonably.

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[mkhuffman]

Have they officially released the battery size (usable capacity)?

 

[LincolnLuvr]

Have they officially released the battery size (usable capacity)?

100kWh battery pack, about 90 kWh usable.

 

[Ghost Ryder]

100kWh battery pack, about 90 kWh usable.

same as the MME, but more 15% more range. Wonder if they have a 2 speed transmission like the taycan.

 

[tmrqs]

same as the MME, but more 15% more range. Wonder if they have a 2 speed transmission like the taycan.

They don’t, 1 speed only - even bigger feat as the Taycan relies on the 2 speed to get its current range.

 

[Mach1E]

same as the MME, but more 15% more range. Wonder if they have a 2 speed transmission like the taycan.

TBD on the “more range.”

They did a 60 mph cruise test. Hardly an EPA official rating.

Pretty sure they said early on it won’t have the 2 speed.

 

[mkhuffman]

same as the MME, but more 15% more range. Wonder if they have a 2 speed transmission like the taycan.

They don’t, 1 speed only - even bigger feat as the Taycan relies on the 2 speed to get its current range.

TBD on the “more range.”

They did a 60 mph cruise test. Hardly an EPA official rating.

Pretty sure they said early on it won’t have the 2 speed.

Yeah, it is highly unlikely the Macan is measurably more efficient than my MME - it might even be less at highway speeds. So with 1 kWh less capacity, and similar aero, there is no way this is an improvement over my car as far as range goes. It is physics.

So if you are looking for better performance, it could be a good upgrade (with a price that is probably not worth the improvement). For my needs, I rate it "meh". Definitely not worth replacing what I consider to be a great car. And my MME is a great car. (Except for range.)

 

[kennethjk]

Yeah, it is highly unlikely the Macan is measurably more efficient than my MME - it might even be less at highway speeds. So with 1 kWh less capacity, and similar aero, there is no way this is an improvement over my car as far as range goes. It is physics.

So if you are looking for better performance, it could be a good upgrade (with a price that is probably not worth the improvement). For my needs, I rate it "meh". Definitely not worth replacing what I consider to be a great car. And my MME is a great car. (Except for range.)

If you think the MME is great you should test drive the EV Macan when it’s out , my guess it will be better , significantly

but we will have to wait and see

if around 85 and the GTPE is 75 (if that’s what it is ), worth the extra money.

no new shocks needed, no stabilizer bars probably no back suspension problems

all to be seen later

 

[Mach1E]

Yeah, it is highly unlikely the Macan is measurably more efficient than my MME - it might even be less at highway speeds. So with 1 kWh less capacity, and similar aero, there is no way this is an improvement over my car as far as range goes. It is physics.

So if you are looking for better performance, it could be a good upgrade (with a price that is probably not worth the improvement). For my needs, I rate it "meh". Definitely not worth replacing what I consider to be a great car. And my MME is a great car. (Except for range.)

I had a lot more interest a year ago when our resale was huge and the thought of being able to trade in my GTPE and write a $20k check to get a Macan would have been tempting.

At this point it’ll probably be my trade plus $60k or more.

And that isn’t tempting at all.

 

[Mach1E]

If you think the MME is great you should test drive the EV Macan when it’s out , my guess it will be better , significantly

but we will have to wait and see

if around 85 and the GTPE is 75 (if that’s what it is ), worth the extra money.

no new shocks needed, no stabilizer bars probably no back suspension problems

all to be seen later

A new GTPE can be had at a significant discount to the 68k MSRP right now.

And the Macan? Likely over $100k optioned the way you’d want it.

Then there are the used GTPEs for 45k to consider as well.

So any time in the near future, they aren’t going to be very comparable when cross shopping based on price.

Plus the 2024 GTPE should have a little more power and less limits. The performance difference may not be that big.

The suspension may be a nice upgrade though.

 

[mkhuffman]

If you think the MME is great you should test drive the EV Macan when it’s out , my guess it will be better , significantly

but we will have to wait and see

if around 85 and the GTPE is 75 (if that’s what it is ), worth the extra money.

no new shocks needed, no stabilizer bars probably no back suspension problems

all to be seen later

I totally expect the Macan to be a great driver's car. Porsche is unmatched when it comes to building high performance cars.

But seriously. I paid $62k for my car. A similarly equipped Macan will be $40k more, easy. Is it really that much better?

My MME is so fast and it so fun on the curves. Of course I have modified my car, so it isn't stock. But still. I love driving it, and I love driving it fast. The Macan will also be fun, but more fun? I doubt it.

My next car will need to be fun but it will also need more range. The Macan will not provide more range. I am not interested.

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