Porsche Macan EV

[CarGuy11]

Honestly not worth the price.

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[Teslaeata]

Honestly not worth the price.

 

[E90alex]

Pretty much no Porsche is worth the price new. People usually don’t cross shop a Porsche because anything else you compare it to will always be a better value. A Porsche is an emotional purchase, not a practical one. You buy a Porsche because you want a Porsche.

 

[Triggerhappy007]

Pretty much no Porsche is worth the price new. People usually don’t cross shop a Porsche because anything else you compare it to will always be a better value. A Porsche is an emotional purchase, not a practical one. You buy a Porsche because you want a Porsche.

I heard 911s keep their value really well. That's not a bad Porsche to buy new. Now their SUVs and sedans are another story.

 

[moritzes]

I heard 911s keep their value really well. That's not a bad Porsche to buy new. Now their SUVs and sedans are another story.

Especially their EVs! (Same as everyone's to be fair )

 

[Scottie’s MachStang]

IMHO I Have to , respectfully, disagree. Porsche has a build quality that most other vehicles simply cannot compare with. Down to the quality of the switches on the steering wheel. In addition, their “policy” of refinement over redesign makes it so your vehicle does not look “old” after a few years. Unlike some other premium brands, they still sell a solid product for the price.

 

[Teslaeata]

Especially their EVs! (Same as everyone's to be fair )

You’d be pissed off if you bought a Porsche Taycan because you wanted a Porsche and looked under the skin finding the Audi rings on loads of its parts

 

[Teslaeata]

IMHO I Have to , respectfully, disagree. Porsche has a build quality that most other vehicles simply cannot compare with.

Especially the ones made by Audi

Just asking for a friend

 

[MyTH]

We recently cross-shopped the Mach-E against its Audi and Porsche counterparts. All of them were great vehicles, fun to drive and family friendly (not always the case for a Porsche). In broad strokes, the Q6 Sportback was about $20k more, and the Macan was another $20k on top of that.

I liked the Q6 just fine: slightly better than the Mach-E in some areas, worse in others, about the same overall. If the prices had been close, we frankly might have gone with the Q6 just for variety rather than another Mach-E.

The Macan was a no-go for me. Porsche has taken a philosophical stance against one-pedal driving, suggesting they simply don't "get" EV's. Now, I love three-pedal driving in a gas-powered 911 -- wow, that's a true driver's car. But to insist that its EV's must emulate the two-pedal driving experience of an automatic transmission? No, thanks.

 

[kltye]

Porsche has taken a philosophical stance against one-pedal driving, suggesting they simply don't "get" EV's. Now, I love three-pedal driving in a gas-powered 911 -- wow, that's a true driver's car. But to insist that its EV's must emulate the two-pedal driving experience of an automatic transmission? No, thanks.

Actually, they don't do one-pedal driving because it's the most efficient way to drive an EV - unnecessarily slowing down by using regen is always less efficient than coasting. Yes, you can feather the throttle to emulate the same behaviour, but 99% of drivers won't do that.

 

[HuntingPudel]

A neighbor has a Macan EV. He had a Brand T Model X for years, then an ICE Maserati SUV (that he got rid of pretty fast), then the Macan. He seems to like the Macan and feels it's way better than the Brand T.

 

[MyTH]

Actually, they don't do one-pedal driving because it's the most efficient way to drive an EV - unnecessarily slowing down by using regen is always less efficient than coasting. Yes, you can feather the throttle to emulate the same behaviour, but 99% of drivers won't do that.

I don't buy it. First, I don't think efficiency is the top priority for most Porsche customers. For many, it's the driving experience. For others, it's about image. Very few people cross-shop a Porsche with a Prius.

If I'm going to pay twice the price of a Mach-E for a Porsche, then I don't want the vehicle playing nanny or insisting that I drive it a certain way. Giving owners a choice is clearly better, the same way Ford's approach to CarPlay and Android Auto (your choice) is better than GM's (force drivers to use only the built-in GM system). If you want folks to do it your way, and be happy about it, then make sure your way is better.

Even if you think one-pedal driving is "bad", there are valid use cases. For someone with multiple EV's, or young drivers who are still learning, or older drivers who are used to a Tesla, it makes sense to provide a range of options so they can start with a familiar driving mode and perhaps progress to Porsche's recommended mode later.

 

[Snakebitten]

Especially the ones made by Audi

Just asking for a friend

The ones built by Audi aren't considered a Porsche by the folks I think being referred to.

I'm not a necessarily a Porsche snob, but if it has more than 2 seats, it's not the Porsche I mean when I describe their impressive build quality and engineering. I have a 21 year old 987 Boxster and it's their entry level "real" Porsche product. Amazing product

 

[kltye]

I don't buy it. First, I don't think efficiency is the top priority for most Porsche customers. For many, it's the driving experience. For others, it's about image. Very few people cross-shop a Porsche with a Prius.

If I'm going to pay twice the price of a Mach-E for a Porsche, then I don't want the vehicle playing nanny or insisting that I drive it a certain way. Giving owners a choice is clearly better, the same way Ford's approach to CarPlay and Android Auto (your choice) is better than GM's (force drivers to use only the built-in GM system). If you want folks to do it your way, and be happy about it, then make sure your way is better.

Even if you think one-pedal driving is "bad", there are valid use cases. For someone with multiple EV's, or young drivers who are still learning, or older drivers who are used to a Tesla, it makes sense to provide a range of options so they can start with a familiar driving mode and perhaps progress to Porsche's recommended mode later.

A philosophical stance (your words) doesn't have to be "bought" - it's what their engineers wanted. And if anything, 2PD is playing more nanny than 1PD since 2PD is the *default* behaviour of vehicles - let off the gas/power, the car coasts. 2PD is *better according to their engineers*, so that's why they've gone with it.

Your comments about "older drivers" or multiple EVs is interesting - what about drivers coming off regular automatics? Yes, there's some amount of engine braking in those, but nowhere as much as 1PD vehicles.

I don't think 1PD is "bad" - it's simply not as good for efficiency. Is it negligible? Probably. But it's a scientific fact that you don't want to regen if possible (assuming you're not slowing down with friction brakes, of course) for maximum efficiency. Being a Prius has nothing to do with it - a more efficient drivetrain will mean better range, or less weight with batteries. It's the same thing where Miatas or other small performance vehicles shave off grams of weight from things like rearview mirrors.

 

[Teslaeata]

The ones built by Audi aren't considered a Porsche by the folks I think being referred to.

I'm not a necessarily a Porsche snob, but if it has more than 2 seats, it's not the Porsche I mean when I describe their impressive build quality and engineering. I have a 21 year old 987 Boxster and it's their entry level "real" Porsche product. Amazing product

That’s what 944 owners used to say until you pointed out they were built on the Audi production line

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