Great Summary: Ford Gets Tesla Supercharger Access {by Tom / State of Charge}

[Jerrytball]

So when you look at FordPass and you look under charging and everything says in network then what does that do for you if it’s someone other than Electrify America because I’m wondering using the Tesla charger with the adapter and a charge you whatever everybody else charges does it just mean since you got the adapter we’re gonna let you use the Tesla charger

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[Jerrytball]

So when you look at FordPass and you look under charging and everything says in network then what does that do for you if it’s someone other than Electrify America because I’m wondering using the Tesla charger with the adapter and a charge you whatever everybody else charges does it just mean since you got the adapter we’re gonna let you use the Tesla charger

So I just looked again under chargers on the FordPass and the only thing in there is Electrify America and Tesla has there always been an adapter out there to plug into a Tesla charger No matter what kind of card is or is he adapter new and Ford is first on the list to be allowed to use their stations but you’re paying the regular fee whatever it is $.48 a kilowatt or something

 

[ChasingCoral]

You weren’t at a 150kw station? They don’t show on the map. Only 250kw and above work.

Nope. A v3.

 

[ChasingCoral]

if it was this one things are a little confusing. it doesn't show up when you filter tesla's map for "superchargers open to NACS", but on the pricing list it does state "charging fees for other EVs" as though it is open to non-teslas. it claims to be 250KW capable.

That’s the one. It was confusing.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Charge Assist shows it, FordPass does not. That isn't a charging failure to me, it is a software failure.

It was a system failure. In this case it seems to be related to the database of valid locations.

 

[RickMachE]

It was a system failure. In this case it seems to be related to the database of valid locations.

Database is software. You didn't fail to charge at a valid Tesla location, because the database says it isn't.

If you fail at a valid location, that to me is a failure.

 

[737flyer]

I think I'm missing something significant. I've not used a Tesla supercharger station.

The MME is only capable of receiving 150kW charging input. The MME can regulate the current coming into the HVB, as it does at charging stations that output 'up to' 350kW. Are you saying the charging station needs to be rated at up to 250kW in order to charge using the adapter?

Thanks in advance.

The MME can not use the V2 -150kw stations only the V3 and V4 stations. V2 stations will not show up on the map.

 

[mkhuffman]

It was a system failure. In this case it seems to be related to the database of valid locations.

Right but it was not a P&C failure.

The P&C failure I had yesterday at a EA station was a P&C failure because the charger is compatible with my car and it did work when I used Charge Assist. If the charger was broken, and wasn't working for any car, it would not have been a P&C failure. It would have been a Friday at a typical EA station failure.

I guess P&C failing is pretty typical at EA also. How about failures of all types are normal when using EA?

I can't wait to get my adapter.

 

[elmedico27]

So when you look at FordPass and you look under charging and everything says in network then what does that do for you if it’s someone other than Electrify America because I’m wondering using the Tesla charger with the adapter and a charge you whatever everybody else charges does it just mean since you got the adapter we’re gonna let you use the Tesla charger

What “in network” means is that, if you’re signed up with the Blue Oval Charging Network, you should be able to activate the charger with your FordPass app or Charge Assist in the car, and pay for the charging session using the credit card on your Ford account. Said a different way, you shouldn’t need the provider’s app to charge there, but these stations do require some action from you to find the charger and start it.

A subset of “in network” stations, currently Electrify America and Tesla, support Plug & Charge, where you don’t have to manually click anything on an app or in the car to “activate” the station — truly just plug in and it begins charging. The billing is still the same, through your Ford Account.

 

[timbop]

What “in network” means is that, if you’re signed up with the Blue Oval Charging Network, you should be able to activate the charger with your FordPass app or Charge Assist in the car, and pay for the charging session using the credit card on your Ford account. Said a different way, you shouldn’t need the provider’s app to charge there, but these stations do require some action from you to find the charger and start it.

A subset of “in network” stations, currently Electrify America and Tesla, support Plug & Charge, where you don’t have to manually click anything on an app or in the car to “activate” the station — truly just plug in and it begins charging. The billing is still the same, through your Ford Account.

Everything you've said is 100% correct, but will amend your statement by saying that EVGo also supports a proprietary version of plug-n-charge if you create an account directly with them. However, the EVGo P&C bills whatever card you linked to your EVGo account and not fordpass. You can still use FordPass or the car charge assist app to locate the EVGo chargers, but rather than activating the station through them you just plug in the connector

 

[ChasingCoral]

Right but it was not a P&C failure.

The P&C failure I had yesterday at a EA station was a P&C failure because the charger is compatible with my car and it did work when I used Charge Assist. If the charger was broken, and wasn't working for any car, it would not have been a P&C failure. It would have been a Friday at a typical EA station failure.

I guess P&C failing is pretty typical at EA also. How about failures of all types are normal when using EA?

I can't wait to get my adapter.

Once had 2 P&C failures in 2 tries at EA stations this week. 2/2 P&C success at Superchargers. I’m wondering if the Supercharger Power Up (DC-CHG4) has messed up the EA certificate? Ford is looking into that.

 

[bigredx86]

Once had 2 P&C failures in 2 tries at EA stations this week. 2/2 P&C success at Superchargers. I’m wondering if the Supercharger Power Up (DC-CHG4) has messed up the EA certificate? Ford is looking into that.

Okay really cool they are taking input and looking into things. Like I know testing in production is bad but hey, gotta live a little, ?.

 

[sgriffin130]

Ok just curious anybody have the hardwired 48 amp charger installed at their house what did the installer charge?

Depends on a number of factors. Length of cable run, etc. Mine was $719, cable run was around 20 ft.

 

[Jerrytball]

And I guess the Ford system got crashed yesterday because 25,000 orders came in. I got my confirmation message that it’s reserved.

 

[Tampamike]

Once had 2 P&C failures in 2 tries at EA stations this week. 2/2 P&C success at Superchargers. I’m wondering if the Supercharger Power Up (DC-CHG4) has messed up the EA certificate? Ford is looking into that.

That would be an unfortunate glitch. Hope they resolve that quickly.

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