Anyone know what the 2024 GT upgrade gets you?

[Mach1E]

Probably spot on. However, I’ll say this - the reg Tesla Model Y dual motor runs trap speeds virtually identical to the Y Perf. because the Perf is allowed to launch harder, yet only sustain a similar HP level for the duration of the run. So, the Perf can trap 114-115mph on an 11.8-12.0 run whereas the dual motor can see similar/identical trap speeds on a 12.4-12.7 run.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ford does the exact same thing with the GT perf upgrade.

I don’t think the regular GT and perf upgrade will be that much different. The difference will all happen before 30 mph and other than at the drag strip……. That extra 100 lb ft will likely just spin the tires.

We shall see though.

Do you still have a Blazer SS on order? Haven’t heard much about a release date or performance on that one in a while. And this Mach E update will likely make it just even later to the show.

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[Pushrods&Capacitors]

I don’t think the regular GT and perf upgrade will be that much different. The difference will all happen before 30 mph and other than at the drag strip……. That extra 100 lb ft will likely just spin the tires.

We shall see though.

Do you still have a Blazer SS on order? Haven’t heard much about a release date or performance on that one in a while. And this Mach E update will likely make it just even later to the show.

That’s kind of what I meant, the GTs will trap close to each other, but, I bet the ETs will be closer than the Teslas, maybe 3-4 tenths difference. Hopefully.

And no, got our $100 deposit back because the SS isn’t arriving soon enough and the EV resale value ship has long since cosplayed the Titanic. So, next GM product will likely be a refreshed Tahoe RST with a 6.2. ? To go with the SS Sedan and the SS 1LE in the family.

 

[silverelan]

I doubt that pre-2024 models will be able to take full advantage of the performance upgrade since they have new hardware (rear motor). We owners of older GTs can probably expect a lengthening of the boost limit and maybe a few ft-lbs of torque. ??

I’d be shocked if Ford gave the ‘21-23 GT/GTPE any sort of performance upgrade or reduced the charging times. I would be grateful if they did but I’m not gonna hold my breath.

 

[BigMach-E]

I’d be shocked if Ford gave the ‘21-23 GT/GTPE any sort of performance upgrade or reduced the charging times. I would be grateful if they did but I’m not gonna hold my breath.

Yeah, but if they don’t? Lost a customer for life.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I’d be shocked if Ford gave the ‘21-23 GT/GTPE any sort of performance upgrade or reduced the charging times. I would be grateful if they did but I’m not gonna hold my breath.

Some people are saying that a DCFC charging curve update has already hit their cars (not sure if mine has gotten it or not since I haven’t DCFC’d in over a year). ?‍?

 

[emetz582]

Is there a single fact stated within 2 pages of replies?

Rumor is the 72-ish mph power cut is gone (The 5 second garbage needs to stop...seriously) which is only assumed by the 1/4 mile time Ford stated of which I alone was the very first on this very forum to question. Suddenly...its a viral topic and fact???

Look, there are no FACTS to back it up the 70mph-ish power reduction has been formally removed. Is it Fact? Fake news? No one knows - YET.

I do hope Ford did eliminate the non-disclosed power reduction that even I did not know of upon purchasing, and has a fix in the works. I assure you, I am on the list of those pressuring Ford to fix what they advertised.

Somehow American companies get away with such tactics...poor quality. And it's accepted? While Japanese cars cant get away with anything. It better WORK...or ELSE!

Ever wonder why Japanese cars are generally the most reliable on average, but never have top performance ratings? Think about it.

TAKE NOTE; Model YEAR 2024 Mach E's are not even available until July/August when normally 2025's should start rolling out to dealers.

PEOPLE. Are you paying attention?

What Ford decided to do...who is it benefiting? Seems like no one!!!

Ford should have skipped the Mach E 2024 model year. Period.

What Ford had now done has now screwed all 2024 buyers and I would NOT recommend buying nor leasing at ANY discount.

Blame Ford's Mach E marketing department. They need a "refresh"! Heads need to roll...

 

[silverelan]

Some people are saying that a DCFC charging curve update has already hit their cars (not sure if mine has gotten it or not since I haven’t DCFC’d in over a year). ?‍?

I noticed a change on my last two DCFC stops but it wasn’t for the better. I’m assuming it’s because it was like 38-45F and raining.

If anyone has any legit charging sessions with different behavior, I’m interested in hearing about it.

 

[Mach1E]

Is there a single fact stated within 2 pages of replies?

Rumor is the 72-ish mph power cut is gone (The 5 second garbage needs to stop...seriously) which is only assumed by the 1/4 mile time Ford stated of which I alone was the very first on this very forum to question. Suddenly...its a viral topic and fact???

Look, there are no FACTS to back it up the 70mph-ish power reduction has been formally removed. Is it Fact? Fake news? No one knows - YET.

I do hope Ford did eliminate the non-disclosed power reduction that even I did not know of upon purchasing, and has a fix in the works. I assure you, I am on the list of those pressuring Ford to fix what they advertised.

Somehow American companies get away with such tactics...poor quality. And it's accepted? While Japanese cars cant get away with anything. It better WORK...or ELSE!

Ever wonder why Japanese cars are generally the most reliable on average, but never have top performance ratings? Think about it.

TAKE NOTE; Model YEAR 2024 Mach E's are not even available until July/August when normally 2025's should start rolling out to dealers.

PEOPLE. Are you paying attention?

What Ford decided to do...who is it benefiting? Seems like no one!!!

Ford should have skipped the Mach E 2024 model year. Period.

What Ford had now done has now screwed all 2024 buyers and I would NOT recommend buying nor leasing at ANY discount.

Blame Ford's Mach E marketing department. They need a "refresh"! Heads need to roll...

11.8 at 114 mph- fact.

That trap speed is impossible without changing the power limits- fact.

Horsepower is unchanged at 480 hp- fact.

Peak torque is increased to 700 tq, but because we are a 1 speed transmission that increase has zero effect above 40 mph or so- fact

Does that help?

 

[emetz582]

11.8 at 114 mph- fact.

That trap speed is impossible without changing the power limits- fact.

Horsepower is unchanged at 480 hp- fact.

Peak torque is increased to 700 tq, but because we are a 1 speed transmission that increase has zero effect above 40 mph or so- fact

Does that help?

Based on those "facts" you are making an assumption and for the time being a false claim because all the facts simply are not know yet. For example;

What if they just raised the limit to a higher speed?
What if they just reduced the amount of limitation?
What if the limit is only removed using a new "track" or other special mode?
What if I go on with this all day because no one yet knows what Ford did?

And are you seriously implying more torque has zero affect on 1/4 mile time? Don't bother pointing to the "estimated power graph" you're probably referring to. I'm catching on to how you come to conclusions and that's not proof of anything. You're just digging yourself into a hole with self proclaimed facts.

 

[HuntingPudel]

11.8 at 114 mph- fact.

That trap speed is impossible without changing the power limits- fact.

Horsepower is unchanged at 480 hp- fact.

Peak torque is increased to 700 tq, but because we are a 1 speed transmission that increase has zero effect above 40 mph or so- fact

Does that help?

Also, Ford published 0-60 in 3.3 seconds. The assumption is that’s with the optional performance package on the GT. Doubtful that they’d publish a time for a model without the performance package. ?‍?

 

[HuntingPudel]

Based on those "facts" you are making an assumption and for the time being a false claim because all the facts simply are not know yet. For example;

What if they just raised the limit to a higher speed?
What if they just reduced the amount of limitation?
What if the limit is only removed using a new "track" or other special mode?
What if I go on with this all day because no one yet knows what Ford did?

And are you seriously implying more torque has zero affect on 1/4 mile time? Don't bother pointing to the "estimated power graph" you're probably referring to. I'm catching on to how you come to conclusions and that's not proof of anything. You're just digging yourself into a hole with self proclaimed facts.

Based off of Ford’s published quarter mile time and trap speed and 0-60 time, yes they did increase the time under boost (higher speed for the limit to kick in). This is a logical deduction given the information published by Ford. ??

Given that nobody has gotten their hands on the car, we’re all waiting on more information. In 2020, Ford seems to have carefully crafted the information that they released by publishing 0-60 times but omitting quarter mile performance and publishing the “so fast it made me sick” video. Then @0t60-3.5 took the first world-wide delivery of a GT in August of 2021 and the ugly truth about the limiter came out. At least we now have quarter mile performance claims from Ford, which paints a better picture than us early reservation holders had. The information will come out, but we really just need to wait until a delivery is made and a car is tracked. ?‍?

 

[Mach1E]

Based on those "facts" you are making an assumption and for the time being a false claim because all the facts simply are not know yet. For example;

What if they just raised the limit to a higher speed?
What if they just reduced the amount of limitation?
What if the limit is only removed using a new "track" or other special mode?
What if I go on with this all day because no one yet knows what Ford did?

And are you seriously implying more torque has zero affect on 1/4 mile time? Don't bother pointing to the "estimated power graph" you're probably referring to. I'm catching on to how you come to conclusions and that's not proof of anything. You're just digging yourself into a hole with self proclaimed facts.

All of those things point to the limit being changed.

Do we know that it’s gone altogether? Nope.

But no one is saying that for sure anyways so not sure why you’re making this straw man argument.

No, I didn’t say more tq doesn’t affect 1/4 mile time. I stated that more tq didn’t explain the 114 mph trap speed.

The trap speed is a result of changing the limiters.

I don’t proclaim the facts, Ford did. Starting with VP Darren Palmer last summer stating in an interview “we will change that limit.” And they did. FWIW I don’t think they eliminated it altogether either. But we shall see.

 

[HuntingPudel]

All of those things point to the limit being changed.

Do we know that it’s gone altogether? Nope.
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VP Darren Palmer last summer stating in an interview “we will change that limit.” And they did. FWIW I don’t think they eliminated it altogether either. But we shall see.

Agreed that Ford most likely didn’t get rid of the limiter all together. The published quarter mile trap speed coupled with the elapsed time suggests that the car is running out of breath at the top end. But, as you said: We shall see. ??

 

[0t60-3.5]

Based off of Ford’s published quarter mile time and trap speed and 0-60 time, yes they did increase the time under boost (higher speed for the limit to kick in). This is a logical deduction given the information published by Ford. ??

Given that nobody has gotten their hands on the car, we’re all waiting on more information. In 2020, Ford seems to have carefully crafted the information that they released by publishing 0-60 times but omitting quarter mile performance and publishing the “so fast it made me sick” video. Then @0t60-3.5 took the first world-wide delivery of a GT in August of 2021 and the ugly truth about the limiter came out. At least we now have quarter mile performance claims from Ford, which paints a better picture than us early reservation holders had. The information will come out, but we really just need to wait until a delivery is made and a car is tracked. ?‍?

For what it's worth... I'd take Ford up on a clean swap of my original '21 GT PE (only 8,200 miles) with the new 2024 GT PU model and take it on the track at first chance. I'd even throw in the spare set of tires.

 

[silverelan]

For what it's worth... I'd take Ford up on a clean swap of my original '21 GT PE (only 8,200 miles) with the new 2024 GT PU model and take it on the track at first chance. I'd even throw in the spare set of tires.

I’d even throw in a few thousand $$ for the change up.

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