Emporia Charger

[TEP]

I just ordered the Emporia charger and will arrive today. However, I learned that WiFi needs to be 2.4ghz in order to utilize the app to change settings. I have a 40amp breaker and can only use 32amps for charging. Emporia can only be changed to 32 via the app. Currently using Ford 32 amp charger. I can change the breaker to 50 amps. I utilize 5G WiFi. Not interested in fooling with WiFi. Called Emporia and they made some suggestions but they are workarounds. They were helpful and called back same day. Good sign!
If I make a breaker change and charge my car, can I use the Ford app to monitor the charging without using the Emporia app???? I am confused as to direction to go in and disappointed Emporia only had a 2.4 ghz connection. No expert, but 5g seems to be current standard.
I wasn’t counting on the electrition expense to change the breaker. However, this may be the best way to utilize the charger.
if any of this makes sense and someone had similar quandary I would appreciate the suggestion. If I don’t make sense apologize in advance.
Thanks from sun baked Utah.
Tom

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[jefftuck]

Can you set up a hotspot with your phone to create a temporary 5G network, then use a second phone to reconfigure the Emporia? I know you don’t want to fiddle with WiFi, but do this once and you’re done.

For me, the Emporia app is optional. It tells me if the system is charging and lets me look at graphs for history and download reports. The Ford app to the car ALSO tells me if it is charging and how fast. The Ford app is the only place where it tells me how far it will charge, when it will be done, and if it is waiting to start because of a schedule.

So, I think you only need the Emporia app once, to set it up. You can monitor charging, including that it is saying down below

 

[markboris]

I just ordered the Emporia charger and will arrive today. However, I learned that WiFi needs to be 2.4ghz in order to utilize the app to change settings. I have a 40amp breaker and can only use 32amps for charging. Emporia can only be changed to 32 via the app. Currently using Ford 32 amp charger. I can change the breaker to 50 amps. I utilize 5G WiFi. Not interested in fooling with WiFi. Called Emporia and they made some suggestions but they are workarounds. They were helpful and called back same day. Good sign!
If I make a breaker change and charge my car, can I use the Ford app to monitor the charging without using the Emporia app???? I am confused as to direction to go in and disappointed Emporia only had a 2.4 ghz connection. No expert, but 5g seems to be current standard.
I wasn’t counting on the electrition expense to change the breaker. However, this may be the best way to utilize the charger.
if any of this makes sense and someone had similar quandary I would appreciate the suggestion. If I don’t make sense apologize in advance.
Thanks from sun baked Utah.
Tom

You can monitor the charging with the Ford app but you can do a lot more with the Emporia app and it will give you a monthly report plus you can set it up to just charge on excess solar or a timed schedule or only during off peak hours after you enter your utility rate plan plus a lot more.

When you say 5 GHz wifi is the current standard, I don't think so. Sure it is much faster and you would want to use it for streaming movies, gaming, etc., but it also has a much shorter range and that is why most household devices use 2.4 GHz wifi. My Tesla Powerwall batteries, SolarEdge inverter, Emporia EV chargers, Honeywell thermostats, Schlage door locks, Belkin, Enbrighten and Wemo smart plugs and switches, B-Hyve irrigation controller, NaviLink water heater, Chamberlain garage door opener, SimplySafe house alarm, Furbo pet camera, Levolor blinds, Aquarium heater and light, Sonos speakers in each room, BullFrog hot tub, Mr. Cool split HVAC, etc, etc, ALL run exclusively on 2.4 GHz wifi. None of them can run on 5 GHz. The only household device I have that operates on both is my Ring doorbell. Most likely because its easier to stream HD video on 5 GHz.

 

[bshaw]

I utilize 5G WiFi. Not interested in fooling with WiFi.

What Wi-Fi router do you have? Many support both 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz and automatically adjust based on the device connecting or the distance.

 

[TEP]

What Wi-Fi router do you have? Many support both 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz and automatically adjust based on the device connecting or the distance.

Thanks. So far all good info. Emporia also mentioned on the phone the router may auto adjust or creating a hotspot. Thanks always to the forum.

 

[bbhaag]

It is clearly spelled out that the Emporia charger only works on the 2.4ghz band. This should not have come as a surprise to the OP.

 

[Jgg181]

I just ordered the Emporia charger and will arrive today. However, I learned that WiFi needs to be 2.4ghz in order to utilize the app to change settings. I have a 40amp breaker and can only use 32amps for charging. Emporia can only be changed to 32 via the app. Currently using Ford 32 amp charger. I can change the breaker to 50 amps. I utilize 5G WiFi. Not interested in fooling with WiFi. Called Emporia and they made some suggestions but they are workarounds. They were helpful and called back same day. Good sign!
If I make a breaker change and charge my car, can I use the Ford app to monitor the charging without using the Emporia app???? I am confused as to direction to go in and disappointed Emporia only had a 2.4 ghz connection. No expert, but 5g seems to be current standard.
I wasn’t counting on the electrition expense to change the breaker. However, this may be the best way to utilize the charger.
if any of this makes sense and someone had similar quandary I would appreciate the suggestion. If I don’t make sense apologize in advance.
Thanks from sun baked Utah.
Tom

Just purchased and setup my Emporia Level 2. Loving it!

Yes, the charger requires 2.4ghz, your phone ‘hotspot‘ will have that as a Wifi option when you connect to the charger, no worries.

Yes, going to a 50 amp breaker, (‘non-hardwire’) Nema 14-50R 240v setup, you should then be able to charge at a consistent 40 amps.

Good Luck and enjoy.

 

[TEP]

It is clearly spelled out that the Emporia charger only works on the 2.4ghz band. This should not have come as a surprise to the OP.

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Just purchased and setup my Emporia Level 2. Loving it!

Yes, the charger requires 2.4ghz, your phone ‘hotspot‘ will have that as a Wifi option when you connect to the charger, no worries.

Yes, going to a 50 amp breaker, (‘non-hardwire’) Nema 14-50R 240v setup, you should then be able to charge at a consistent 40 amps.

Good Luck and enjoy.

I believe this fix is the answer. Seems the best way to solve the issue. Thanks

 

[TEP]

It is clearly spelled out that the Emporia charger only works on the 2.4ghz band. This should not have come as a surprise to the OP.

Well. I clearly missed that part or I would not have asked the forum for suggestions.

 

[Jeff-NoVA]

I have never heard of somebody's home WiFi being 5GHz only, short of a total tech head with some weird use case. Somebody who is not "interested in fooling with WiFi" is definitely not running 5GHz only at home, unless by total accident.

 

[bbhaag]

Well. I clearly missed that part or I would not have asked the forum for suggestions.

It was very apparent in the listings. Whether you purchased it from Emporia directly or off Amazon.

 

[TEP]

It was very apparent in the listings. Whether you purchased it from Emporia directly or off Amazon.

Ok you are correct. Cured me of posting. All have a nice evening.

 

[bbhaag]

Ok you are correct. Cured me of posting. All have a nice evening.

Don't take it personally. We all mess up. Chances are really good that your router has a 2.4ghz band but now you have to do some extra legwork to configure it.

 

[Andy OS WA]

Some routers, like Eero, have a control that allows for a 2.4 Ghz device to connect. I have a new Mach-E, but will go with the Grizzl-E Classic specifically because it does not have wifi. I can't see the need for one more "smart" device.

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