Charging…..what should I believe?

[Doobster6]

So I’ve had my new 2024 Premium Ext-Range for nearly two weeks now and am LOVING it! Just last night I had the chance to charge it for the second time, once again stopping at 60%. This, I thought, would give me the opportunity to accurately calculate my miles/KWh. At the time charging started, my car, and the app, said I was at 31% with 90 miles of range left. When finished then I should have added 29%, which should calculate to 26.4 KW for a 91 KWh battery. Since I only drove 78.8 miles between charges which this would then calculate to a respectable 3.2 m/Kwh. Instead, the app says I added 43 KWh which would instead calculate to a miserable 1.82 miles/KWh!! My goodness, 43 KWh is almost half of the battery’s useable 91 KWh capacity, so I’m sure that can’t be right. Meanwhile, the energy ‘this trip app’ that floats in the ribbon just above the climate control section has been telling me that all of my round trips have been delivering between 3.7 and 4.4 m/Kwh. Which is clearly overly optimistic…..unless we also can’t trust the ‘percent remaining’ numbers displayed. What can I/we trust??
Based on what’s been reported online, I’m inclined to trust the ‘percent charged’ number most, but then I wonder what the Ford software is getting so wrong everywhere else. Maybe the Ford member can chime in here?……

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[AKgrampy]

So I’ve had my new 2024 Premium Ext-Range for nearly two weeks now and am LOVING it! Just last night I had the chance to charge it for the second time, once again stopping at 60%. This, I thought, would give me the opportunity to accurately calculate my miles/KWh. At the time charging started, my car, and the app, said I was at 31% with 90 miles of range left. When finished then I should have added 29%, which should calculate to 26.4 KW for a 91 KWh battery. Since I only drove 78.8 miles between charges which this would then calculate to a respectable 3.2 m/Kwh. Instead, the app says I added 43 KWh which would instead calculate to a miserable 1.82 miles/KWh!! My goodness, 43 KWh is almost half of the battery’s useable 91 KWh capacity, so I’m sure that can’t be right. Meanwhile, the energy ‘this trip app’ that floats in the ribbon just above the climate control section has been telling me that all of my round trips have been delivering between 3.7 and 4.4 m/Kwh. Which is clearly overly optimistic…..unless we also can’t trust the ‘percent remaining’ numbers displayed. What can I/we trust??
Based on what’s been reported online, I’m inclined to trust the ‘percent charged’ number most, but then I wonder what the Ford software is getting so wrong everywhere else. Maybe the Ford member can chime in here?……

FordPass numbers can be inaccurate unfortunately. I just look at MyTrip which is fairly accurate to get a feeling for my efficiency. It goes up in the summer and so does my range. In the winter it drops along with range. That is all I really look at but have not done any long distance driving.

 

[n2585722]

Did you actually stop the charge at 60%. If not the car may still be using current from the charger but that is quite a difference. I usually unplug after the hits the set point I have set after stopping it in the app. Here is one of my charges when it added 45kwh. That went from 35% to 84%.

 

[Doobster6]

Did you actually stop the charge at 60%. If not the car may still be using current from the charger but that is quite a difference. I usually unplug after the hits the set point I have set after stopping it in the app. Here is one of my charges when it added 45kwh. That went from 35% to 84%.

I charged it overnight, setting a 60% charge limit. I’m operating under the assumption that the car’s BMS shuts down the charging when that limit is hit.

 

[Doobster6]

FordPass numbers can be inaccurate unfortunately. I just look at MyTrip which is fairly accurate to get a feeling for my efficiency. It goes up in the summer and so does my range. In the winter it drops along with range. That is all I really look at but have not done any long distance driving.

Is that different from the ‘this trip’ applet? My understanding is that the ‘this trip’ applet is a continuously updating calculation for the entire trip up until any point in time. That is usually showing me between 3.3 and 4.3 m/Kwh for any trip over ten minutes. Sop far I’ve been satisfied with the way the car performs in Whisper mode. I don’t want to tempt myself into having to always live with the dynamic joy that is ‘Unbridled’. And I do know that a LOT depends on the right foot regardless of driving mode…..but once you sample that shove-in-the-back acceleration, it’s hard to settle for anything else. For now anyway, I’m remaining disciplined!

 

[n2585722]

I charged it overnight, setting a 60% charge limit. I’m operating under the assumption that the car’s BMS shuts down the charging when that limit is hit.

I am doing a charge today and before when I would get the charge complete message I was still getting things running at the car and some current draw but not near as much as it draws during charging which is 24 amps. Today once I got the message I did a snapshot of the charging. Before it would still say charging but now it is showing complete in ford pass. I also went and checked the current meter on the SplitVolt switch and it was .6 amps when I first got out to check it but while looking at it it dropped to .01 amps which is almost nothing. I also went and check the lights on the access port and they are all off now. So my guess the issue was fixed in one of the over the air updates or the app. I have been reluctant before to plug it in overnight since when I first got it I could go out to the car an hour after getting the charging complete message and you could hear things still running in the car but it is silent now. I will leave it plugged in longer to see what happens.

 

[n2585722]

Update, I left it plugged in for a little over 4 hours after getting the message. At the time of the message it showed 47.4 kWH of charge.An hour later it was at 50.3 kwh it didn't budge from that for three more hours. I also check the watt hour meter on the SplitVolt and it didn't budge either so it apparently did stop charging. Not sure why it takes an hour for the KWH to stop rising but it did stop after about an hour. If you use the percentage it went up which was 56% and convert to KWH it would be 50.96 kwh so it is pretty close to the 50.3 kwh on ford pass. I am not sure what could have happenedon your values. You may want to try it when you can go unplug it once it get to the charge value. Also even though it showed 85% as the value it charged to it was saying 84% when I when out and moved the car after unplugging it, but it has always been 1-2% lower than the target but I usually do not check till the next morning after unplugging the night before.

 

[Bakahump]

Hey all first post so hoping this is the accepted way.
24 Premier awd extended.
My wife has about a 20 mile total commute.
And I have a EVIQO charger.
We charge to 80%

Problem is the APP (which may be the issue lol) will say “6kw added 80% reached” in like 45 mins. And the EVIQO will agree with a few tenths of a kw.
All good right?
Well no… when I look at the app I see the original 6kw charge…. AND a large later charge. Like 43kw.
I KNOW this charge didn’t happen (as I can also monitor my electrical panel and do not see this kind of draw).
It seems pretty consistent this week.
i DID have a “longish” drive on Sunday (18th) of about 120 miles, getting home about 9pm. So even the 90kw Monday morning seems really off.
My wife is consistently 3-4+ miles per kWh. And the range on the car seems right (215-220 remaining after the 20 ish mile commute).

Any idea of why the odd report?

 

[zvez]

Hey all first post so hoping this is the accepted way.
24 Premier awd extended.
My wife has about a 20 mile total commute.
And I have a EVIQO charger.
We charge to 80%

Problem is the APP (which may be the issue lol) will say “6kw added 80% reached” in like 45 mins. And the EVIQO will agree with a few tenths of a kw.
All good right?
Well no… when I look at the app I see the original 6kw charge…. AND a large later charge. Like 43kw.
I KNOW this charge didn’t happen (as I can also monitor my electrical panel and do not see this kind of draw).
It seems pretty consistent this week.
i DID have a “longish” drive on Sunday (18th) of about 120 miles, getting home about 9pm. So even the 90kw Monday morning seems really off.
My wife is consistently 3-4+ miles per kWh. And the range on the car seems right (215-220 remaining after the 20 ish mile commute).

Any idea of why the odd report?

it's odd, but it looks like your charging history is breaking out one charge into two session. I just checked mine and it only reports a single session in fordpass. The total kwh is not accurate and don't think it has been for some time, I think it's taking the time the car is plugged in and acting like it's delivering energy even tho it's not. My charge sessions tend to show about 80kwh added. when in actuality maybe 20kwh was actually delivered to the car.

Curious have you updated your fordpass? As 5.4. for droids came out a couple days ago, I think IOS is also on 5.4 now?

 

[Jerrytball]

This seems about the only place where I could probably ask this question and kind of stay within the theme of the thread. There’s a free charging station around here and someone there made this statement about changing the amperage. I wanted to know is this Something that is particular to a certain car? Is there a way we can change. I’m assuming they meant to change the amps on the car, not the charger itself?

 

[Maquis]

It sounds like an improperly installed L2 EVSE. Unfortunately, the charge rate cannot be manually set in our cars.

 

[Bakahump]

it's odd, but it looks like your charging history is breaking out one charge into two session. I just checked mine and it only reports a single session in fordpass. The total kwh is not accurate and don't think it has been for some time, I think it's taking the time the car is plugged in and acting like it's delivering energy even tho it's not. My charge sessions tend to show about 80kwh added. when in actuality maybe 20kwh was actually delivered to the car.

Curious have you updated your fordpass? As 5.4. for droids came out a couple days ago, I think IOS is also on 5.4 now?

I am on 5.4.0 for ford pass

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