The myth about electric car owners

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Most of us who have high performance vehicles tend to have louder cars. These cars tend to be louder than the average economy car because they need their exhaust systems to keep up with their power plants. A large portion of those who have performance cars tend to have fun with their cars and are not those who crave attention. ?ā€ā™‚?

most of the really loud vehicle around my town are actually LOW performance mis-tuned vehicles with exhaust backpressure not balanced to intake at all....

I (still) enjoy the sound of a well-tuned vehicle accelerating, I just can't stand the 'tuner' exhaust systems the kids slap on anything just to make noise.
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The sound of my flat6 at full wail might very well attract some attention. But that song is for my pleasure. I'd be thrilled if I could hear and enjoy it, yet it be dead silent to everyone else. Especially law enforcement. ?

Having said that, I do also love to run silent, while being a bit of a hooligan in the Mach-E.
 

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Most of us who have high performance vehicles tend to have louder cars. These cars tend to be louder than the average economy car because they need their exhaust systems to keep up with their power plants. A large portion of those who have performance cars tend to have fun with their cars and are not those who crave attention. ?ā€ā™‚?
Am I the only one who still loves the sound of a good, loud exhaust, and by god, if it’s a car pre catalytic converter & fuel injection days, just wind down those windows and sniff those fumes, mmmmmmmmm.

And the smell of a motorbike burning Castrol R and I’m an ecstatic mess?
 

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... systems the kids slap on anything just to make noise.
When I read this post, for some reason I focused on just the quoted fragment and it reminded me of my childhood and taking a card from a deck of playing cards, and wedging it against the frame of my bicycle so the spokes of the rear wheel would hit the card making a kind of motor sound when the wheel turned...
 

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When I read this post, for some reason I focused on just the quoted fragment and it reminded me of my childhood and taking a card from a deck of playing cards, and wedging it against the frame of my bicycle so the spokes of the rear wheel would hit the card making a kind of motor sound when the wheel turned...
Used to do that on one of these.

In the early 1970s

Got a new one mounted on my office wall for what reason I have no idea having spent £1,000 on it ?

Had so much fun with my Chopper?

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Why did I go EV:

1. Something new and different.....Cool
2. Love the Smooth Drive and Instant Torque
3. It's a Sporty Looking Car ( I don't have the same angst agains Elon these other people do just felt like his cars looked like tadpoles to me.)
4. Yes, the enviromnent played a roll in my decision.
5. Minimal Maintenance
6. Don't have to go to the Gas Station Weekly.
I'll second literally all of these, in this order. As a driver in the far north I want to add that an AWD EV drives phenomenally on icy/snowy roads, that the regen braking provides better control than the best stability control/ABS I've used on ICE cars.

My Mach-E is absolutely the best car I've ever owned, period. There are things about the EV ownership experience that I'd like to be a little better, but I don't feel like I have to bend myself out of shape in any way to accommodate it.
 

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If you could convince people to buy reasonably sized vehicles that accomplish the task they actually use them for….

Well Ford would probably go bankrupt because there would be 95% less F150’s sold.
That’s like asking people to only eat the minimum amount of food they need for nutrition.

Good luck with that! ?

Maybe people on each side could come up with a simple compromise makes everyone unhappy (but helps the environment).

One side gives up their gas powered cars, when the other side agrees to give up heat and air conditioning in their cars, homes and work.

If that’s too extreme, they could give up their Chevy Suburban if environmentalists get rid of their pets:
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When I read this post, for some reason I focused on just the quoted fragment and it reminded me of my childhood and taking a card from a deck of playing cards, and wedging it against the frame of my bicycle so the spokes of the rear wheel would hit the card making a kind of motor sound when the wheel turned...
Gotta love using a clothes pin and a playing card! ??
 

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That’s like asking people to only eat the minimum amount of food they need for nutrition.

Good luck with that! ?
In America we could probably start with only consuming double the minimal amount needed.
 

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I took my kid to school on the back of this for about 3 years, rain or shine. Took it grocery shopping, to the bar, to the game shop, to friends. It was a vehicle replacement. It was an absolute blast and provided a connection and ability to converse with my kids that you can't do from the back of an SUV.

We were zero emission, these things are like 20 miles or so range and have like a 650Wh (not kWh, an extended Mach-E is 91 kWh in size.. over 100X bigger). Didn't need a parking space to drop off and easily stores in my garage.

And then you have biking purists that give you the side eye while you zoom past them with a grin on a hill.

What's really the goal we are trying to accomplish?
Use less gas? Check
Get some exercise? Check
Have a better experience with my family? Check
Less of a burden on city infrastructure? Check
Fun? Absolutely

I don't need to suffer to get less cars on the road or use less gas as an individual.

It doesn't need to be a culture war. Electric vehicles are just really easy to use as a daily form of transportation.

Charging at home for pennies is fantastic. My 16 year old uses an electric scooter to get to work and back (about 3 miles each way). Scooter was under $400 and it's like $.08 a charge. I don't pay insurance on it and she can just take it in a friends house when she gets there and doesn't need to find a parking spot. It's fantastic and has opened a huge range of freedom and accessibility to her.

She doesn't want the responsibility of driving a $60k EV and actually understands how silly the math is to pay for thousands in insurance to cover her for a handful of days a month she'll use it.

E-bikes and scooters have made urban transportation far more accessible and we all benefit from improvements to tech for all of these products.

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Many advantages, to be sure. The one big downside I can see is… you look like a total dork. :geek:
 

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When I read this post, for some reason I focused on just the quoted fragment and it reminded me of my childhood and taking a card from a deck of playing cards, and wedging it against the frame of my bicycle so the spokes of the rear wheel would hit the card making a kind of motor sound when the wheel turned...
My kids and their friends did that to their bikes last summer with Pokemon cards, they are still there!

Am I the only one who still loves the sound of a good, loud exhaust, and by god, if it’s a car pre catalytic converter & fuel injection days, just wind down those windows and sniff those fumes, mmmmmmmmm.

And the smell of a motorbike burning Castrol R and I’m an ecstatic mess?
I love it! I do miss my old Stingray with side pipes, but that noise was nice for once week and making a show when you want to. Being able to floor it off of every stop and not turning heads is so much nicer for a daily driver.
 

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Many advantages, to be sure. The one big downside I can see is… you look like a total dork. :geek:
A dog hanging out a window with the wind blowing in it's face living it's best life doesn't care how it looks. Neither do I.
 

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Times 8 billion people.
But only if we all work together. And that's the problem. The way you get 8 billion people to work together is through governmental action. Not independent decision making.

You want to solve the climate problem, use the government. You want to have fun driving to work, get an electric car.

It's possible the two could be related, but it is only through governmental action that enough of the "individual" actions will result in meaningful change (at least in a time frame short enough to do something about it).
 

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But only if we all work together. And that's the problem. The way you get 8 billion people to work together is through governmental action. Not independent decision making.

You want to solve the climate problem, use the government. You want to have fun driving to work, get an electric car.

It's possible the two could be related, but it is only through governmental action that enough of the "individual" actions will result in meaningful change (at least in a time frame short enough to do something about it).
Sure.

But even the government has limited resources. And if you’re too mean to the citizens, no one wants to live there. The carrot instead of the stick.

The world is full of problems and the government can’t (and can’t afford) to solve them all. Especially not the ones that won’t REALLY be a problem until long after all of us are gone and may be unpreventable by us anyways.
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