My staggered wheel/tire setups - info, specs, opinions.

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Thank you! If I go for 265’s I’ll definitely do 9”. Main concern now is knowing correct offset range for 295s on a GT.
They should be the same. What is offset of your current rear wheels?

My wheels should be here in a couple of weeks. A local shop order them from a company in China.

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Ali is correct. Makes no difference the model or trim Mach-E. They are all the same.

And Ali, looking forward to seeing these wheels in your car. ?
 

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Ali is correct. Makes no difference the model or trim Mach-E. They are all the same.

And Ali, looking forward to seeing these wheels in your car. ?
Me too. I’m still worried about the offset a bit. I hope there isn’t any rubbing.
I based it off your 295 setup with the 47 offset. I think 285 with a 52 offset should yield the same result. I’m guessing you didn’t have any rubbing issues with that.
 
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Me too. I’m still worried about the offset a bit. I hope there isn’t any rubbing.
I based it off your 295 setup with the 47 offset. I think 285 with a 52 offset should yield the same result. I’m guessing you didn’t have any rubbing issues with that.
I am actually a bit worried about your offset too. It also comes down to the tires you get and what their sidewall profile is like. I run the Michelin Pilot Sport series so they have a more flat sidewall. If I ran Pirelli's or tires with a rounded sidewall I would have rubbing. I know because I tried it. The thing is you are pushing it to the max trying to get those tires/wheels in as much as possible. However, if you do have issues, it should not be much and can easily be fixed by adding a 3 or 5mm spacer. You can do that without having to change out the wheel studs (I've done that too). Wish I was around when you are getting these.... I will be in Seattle Dec 6 but only for the evening. ?
 

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I am actually a bit worried about your offset too. It also comes down to the tires you get and what their sidewall profile is like. I run the Michelin Pilot Sport series so they have a more flat sidewall. If I ran Pirelli's or tires with a rounded sidewall I would have rubbing. I know because I tried it. The thing is you are pushing it to the max trying to get those tires/wheels in as much as possible. However, if you do have issues, it should not be much and can easily be fixed by adding a 3 or 5mm spacer. You can do that without having to change out the wheel studs (I've done that too). Wish I was around when you are getting these.... I will be in Seattle Dec 6 but only for the evening. ?
If you were here longer, it would have been good to hang out. A spacer is definitely an option. We will see how it goes. I’m guessing it might rub on the shock mount.
 


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If I am back for a longer time someday, I'll let you know. Yes you have the most aggressive positive offset wheels I know of. I stayed a bit more conservative but I'm very anxious to see how they fit. I know you want them to be tucked in as much as possible. As I said, if you have any issues a 3 or 5mm spacer will take care of it. A more negative camber adjustment will also make them fit. That is how I play around with mine. If I'm a bit too close, I just add a touch of negative camber. Too close (touching) I will add a spacer. This was all during my testing of different wheels and tires. Now I just have the wheels made in the proper offsets. 255/285 is my favorite staggered setup even though there aren't a lot of tire choices in those sizes.

Just realized I have some extra spacers I can send you that you should have on hand in case they are needed when installing your setup. I forget what sizes I have and how many. I'm in AZ until Monday so I can check when I get back home. DM me your info if you want them (free).
 
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They should be the same. What is offset of your current rear wheels?

My wheels should be here in a couple of weeks. A local shop order them from a company in China.

This is a picture of the actual wheel.
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That’s a beautiful wheel! I’m looking at the Stance wheel that looks very much like that one. I’m searching high and low for the offset of my current wheels. I guess I really lucked out since I didn’t pay attention to that. I can’t seem to find it anywhere. From what I’m seeing they may have discontinued my particular wheel. It’s the Curva C300 20x10.5. Looking at their other wheels I see numbers in the +35 and 37 range. I may need to message Curva and have them tell me what they are even if they are discontinued now.
 
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That’s a beautiful wheel! I’m looking at the Stance wheel that looks very much like that one. I’m searching high and low for the offset of my current wheels. I guess I really lucked out since I didn’t pay attention to that. I can’t seem to find it anywhere. From what I’m seeing they may have discontinued my particular wheel. It’s the Curva C300 20x10.5. Looking at their other wheels I see numbers in the +35 and 37 range. I may need to message Curva and have them tell me what they are even if they are discontinued now.
What size tire is on your Curva 20x10.5 wheel? I assume 295/40/20? I also assume these are only in the rear? Are they fairly flush or have just a very slight poke?
 

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What size tire is on your Curva 20x10.5 wheel? I assume 295/40/20? I also assume these are only in the rear? Are they fairly flush or have just a very slight poke?
Yes it’s a 295/40/20. I’d have to see if they’re poking out a little or just look like they are with the camera angle. I’ll check when I get a chance. I don’t mind if they poke out a little.

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Yes it’s a 295/40/20. I’d have to see if they’re poking out a little or just look like they are with the camera angle. I’ll check when I get a chance. I don’t mind if they poke out a little.

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They don't look like much of a poke. Also depends on your camber in the rear. I go with a slightly more negative camber in the rear around -1.5-1.8 so mine look fairly flush and they have a +47 which is what yours looks like.. Take a straight edge like a broom stick handle or long 4' level and place against the bottom of the tire in the middle then up against the fender trim and see what you have, poke or inset and how much. They should be stamped on the wheels on the inside barrel or on the back side of the spokes or hub. It won't be easily read. Need to pull off the wheel to find it.
 
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They don't look like much of a poke. Also depends on your camber in the rear. I go with a slightly more negative camber in the rear around -1.5-1.8 to keep them fairly flush. Take a straight edge like a broom stick handle or long 4' level and place against the bottom of the tire in the middle then up against the fender trim and see what you have, poke or inset and how much. To see looks like your offset is around +47. They should be stamped on the wheels on the inside barrel or on the back side of the spokes or hub. It won't be easily read. Need to pull off the wheel to find it.
I’ll do it when I get out of work today. Meant to mention that I’ve been using the Toyo Proxes STIII tire.
Can you tell me what offset I should be looking for and I’ll be sure to find the right one? Again, I don’t mind if it pokes out a little if that makes a difference. To be honest I’m not even clear on what the numbers mean or why off set is important!:)
 
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I’ll do it when I get out of work today. Meant to mention that I’ve been using the Toyo Proxes STIII tire.
Can you tell me what offset I should be looking for and I’ll be sure to find the right one? Again, I don’t mind if it pokes out a little if that makes a difference. To be honest I’m not even clear on what the numbers mean or why off set it’s important!:)
Offset refers to how your car’s wheels are mounted and sit in the wheel wells.

Zero wheel offset is when the hub mounting surface is in line with the centerline of the wheel.

Positive wheel offset is when the hub mounting surface is in front (more toward the street side) of the centerline of the wheel.

Negative wheel offset is when the hub mounting surface is behind the wheel centerline. “Deep dish” wheels are typically a negative offset.

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Since I started installing a staggered wheel setups on my Mach-E in early 2021, many members have gone with my original setup which was Front 20"x9" 33 offset 265/45/20 tire and Rear 20"x10.5" +47 offset 295/40/20 tire. I will assume yours is similar to this. Some went with a different front wheel setup 20"x9" +34 offset 255/45/20 tire.

Do you know what size wheels and tires you have in the front? Is the poke or flushness of the tires similar in the front as it is in the rear? I'm willing to bet you have the same or similar specs I have used over the last three+ years.

Edit: meant to add, that because of the staggered setup, you have different offsets in the front and rear. You want the tires to to be/look the same front and rear either all flush, inset or with a slight poke. Since the front wheel/tire are narrower, we need to bring them out a bit more than the rear to sit the same as the rear's do so they have around a +34mm offset. The rears have a +47 offset which with a 10.5" wheel and 295 tire, fit just about flush. The inner sidewall of the 295 rears are close to the rear upper shock mount so you don't want to go with anymore of a positive offset than 47. Does this all make sense?
 
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Fun fact: Aftermarket and OEM wheel offsets are opposite each other. While zero is zero, a positive OEM offset moves the rim centerline away from the car’s centerline. A negative OEM offset moves the wheel centerline toward the car’s centerline. Drives me nuts dealing with OEM vs. aftermarket. ??
 

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Offset refers to how your car’s wheels are mounted and sit in the wheel wells.

Zero wheel offset is when the hub mounting surface is in line with the centerline of the wheel.

Positive wheel offset is when the hub mounting surface is in front (more toward the street side) of the centerline of the wheel.

Negative wheel offset is when the hub mounting surface is behind the wheel centerline. “Deep dish” wheels are typically a negative offset.

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Since I started installing a staggered wheel setups on my Mach-E in early 2021, many members have gone with my original setup which was Front 20"x9" 34 offset 265/45/20 tire and Rear 20"x10.5" +47 offset 295/40/20 tire. I will assume yours is similar to this. Some went with a different front wheel setup 20"x9" +34 offset 255/45/20 tire.

Do you know what size wheels and tires you have in the front? Is the poke or flushness of the tires similar in the front as it is in the rear? I'm willing to bet you have the same or similar specs I have used over the last three+ years.

Edit: meant to add, that because of the staggered setup, you have different offsets in the front and rear. You want the tires to to be/look the same front and rear either all flush, inset or with a slight poke. Since the front wheel/tire are narrower, we need to bring them out a bit more than the rear to sit the same as the rear's do so they have around a +34mm offset. The rears have a +47 offset which with a 10.5" wheel and 295 tire, fit just about flush. The inner sidewall of the 295 rears are close to the rear upper shock mount so you don't want to go with anymore of a positive offset than 47. Does this all make sense?
Not easy to show in a photo but the rear pokes out maybe 1/4” and the front is inset maybe 1/4”.

The Curvas came as a staggered set so I don’t give any input.

I currently have 255/45/20 x 9.5 on the front.

The information above about offset is very helpful. Not that complicated after all!

It sounds like to the trained eye my set up looks sloppy. I always assumed the rears poked out because if their size and thought that extra girth gave the vehicle a more aggressive stance. I think I sorta like it. My main concern is ensuring I don’t have fit issues as you mentioned. I’m gathering around +34 front and +47 rear is where I want to land. More positive offset means some potential poking out. I may do 265/45/20 x 9 in the front.

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Not easy to show in a photo but the rear pokes out maybe 1/4” and the front is inset maybe 1/4”.

The Curvas came as a staggered set so I don’t give any input.

I currently have 255/45/20 x 9.5 on the front.

The information above about offset is very helpful. Not that complicated after all!

It sounds like to the trained eye my set up looks sloppy. I always assumed the rears poked out because if their size and thought that extra girth gave the vehicle a more aggressive stance. I think I sorta like it. My main concern is ensuring I don’t have fit issues as you mentioned. I’m gathering around +33 front and +47 rear is where I want to land. More positive offset means some potential poking out. I may do 265/45/20 x 9 in the front.
265/45/20 with a 9" wheel up front with a +33 offset will bring that front out flush and more match the rear. If your rears are sticking out 1/4" then the offset is probably around +40 or so, not +47 as they should be to be flush. Thing is, the wheels I get and Steve (HuntingPudel) and quite a few others, are custom made/ordered wheels so we can get the exact fitment we want. If you don't go with custom ordered wheels, you may have to find a set that can get as close to 20x9 +33 up front and 20x10.5 +47 in the rear. We can help you with this so keep us informed how it's going in your search.
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