Is Battery Preconditioning a Premium Paid Option?

[MacherAWD]

Seems like Google is also exerting a lot of control if people want to turn a thread that has nothing to do with Apple v Google flame wars into one.

Ford sells a car with Carplay support.
Ford doesn’t have preconditioning in CarPlay.
Ford also doesn’t have preconditioning on Android automative in non Google owned mapping applications (shocker).
Ford also doesn’t allow the user to start preconditioning at will.

Sounds like Ford has lots of options of ways to give ALL their customers the same features. Not just the ones that buy this or that.

Buying any vendors phone shouldn’t be a requirement to precondition.

And if you’re forced to use the Ford provided PAID navigation…update the damn thing to include the new chargers.

Does any car have preconditioning in car play?

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[Sikkun]

Does any car have preconditioning in car play?

No idea, don’t keep up with every EV.

 

[MacherAWD]

No idea, don’t keep up with every EV.

I think the answer is no. So to the OPs original point, is it fords problem if no one else can either?

And yes we have been asking for a manual precondition button for 3+ years now.

 

[Deleted member 19354]

@Ford Motor Company Is preconditioning the battery a premium paid option?

My car only preconditions the battery when using the Connected Built In Navigation which is $80 a year. It does not precondition using the Public Charging app in the car.

If I don't renew my Connected Built In Navigation, the free Ford options to locate a charger are, per your web site, the public charging app in the car, and the Ford Pass phone app. The Ford Pass app only utilizes Google and Apple maps so no preconditioning there.

I conclude that preconditioning the battery is a paid option.

NOTE:
1 - This is not a time to teach me about how preconditioning doesn't matter, I just want Ford to let me know if it is a paid option.
2 - I admit it could be the car. However the latest TSB for a software update was installed at my local dealership on Monday. The car acts the same as prior to the update.
3 - The Connected Built In Navigation doesn't show Tesla chargers but the Public Charging app does. This might be related?
4 - I could be ALL WET here. if I am... I can handle it.. (sniff sniff)

Ron
early 2023
Select Std Range
AWD

I’d still like proof that my car is preconditioning ?. No indication that it is or is not

 

[MadMatt]

I think the answer is no. So to the OPs original point, is it fords problem if no one else can either?

And yes we have been asking for a manual precondition button for 3+ years now.

any why do we need battery pre-conditioning so badly exactly?

i haven't DC charged often but the one time i did starting with a 5c battery it was in the 20c's within minutes.

 

[rreddy3]

“maybe next time I'll be more adventurous - like going to Cleveland???”

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[MacherAWD]

any why do we need battery pre-conditioning so badly exactly?

i haven't DC charged often but the one time i did starting with a 5c battery it was in the 20c's within minutes.

I am well aware why it's needed. EV owner 10 years now, 3 years of a MachE.

 

[Sikkun]

any why do we need battery pre-conditioning so badly exactly?

i haven't DC charged often but the one time i did starting with a 5c battery it was in the 20c's within minutes.

Saves you time, colder it is the more time it saves you.

 

[moog]

Your understanding is partially correct.

Public Charging doesn't precondition.
Ford nav doesn't precondition to Tesla Superchargers.
GoogleMaps with Android Auto DOES precondition to Telsa SuperChargers (but not on my 2022 Lightning).
Yes, despite having adapters out for over a year, the navigation still doesn't have the Tesla Superchargers shown. Pathetic.

This should be posted EVERYWHERE!!!!!

What a cluster-cuss.
Come on Ford that is embarrassing!
So many caveats and no way of knowing if the car is preconditioning or not!

It's a guessing game.
At least have a notification on the screen that says "preconditioning"

Is that so hard?

4 years of models, add to that years prior of R&D, and preconditioning is still difficult?
Dare I say its a myth around these parts?

 

[MadMatt]

Saves you time, colder it is the more time it saves you.

right, my point being were are talking about minutes.. like 3-4 minutes. not 10's of minutes.

the whole thing is blown out of proportion, not to mention you use up more battery power doing the pre-con on the way.

 

[MadMatt]

I am well aware why it's needed. EV owner 10 years now, 3 years of a MachE.

i am also an EV owner of 8 years, 2017 Ford Focus Electric with a 33kwh battery in Canadian winters. Its really not at all that important.

 

[kens]

right, my point being were are talking about minutes.. like 3-4 minutes. not 10's of minutes.

the whole thing is blown out of proportion, not to mention you use up more battery power doing the pre-con on the way.

Not even close. It can easily add an hour on a 10-80% charge with a cold battery. Preconditioning is necessary for those who live in cold climates, and much more so for those who rely on DC charging.

 

[RickMachE]

Not even close. It can easily add an hour on a 10-80% charge with a cold battery. Preconditioning is necessary for those who live in cold climates, and much more so for those who rely on DC charging.

This is simply wrong. With Car Scanner you can watch battery temp, heater power, and charging speed requested, and see the battery warm up. The colder it is, the longer it takes. And, the Lightning heats up faster than the Mach-E. But, no, it doesn't add an hour or anywhere close to that.

 

[kens]

This is simply wrong. With Car Scanner you can watch battery temp, heater power, and charging speed requested, and see the battery warm up. The colder it is, the longer it takes. And, the Lightning heats up faster than the Mach-E. But, no, it doesn't add an hour or anywhere close to that.

I've only had the car a month, but have seen extremity slow charging in the cold. Took a road trip and hit a charger to try and bring the battery temp up, got 40kW at -20f, 40kW sustained takes over 90 minutes to go 10-80%, very slow.

 

[RickMachE]

Was this at an EA charger or a Tesla charger, or a 50kW charger.

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