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I installed the MME Rally's front and rear springs on a 2023 RWD ER MME about a week ago. I've been talking with @markboris for a while now about how to improve ride comfort for someone who mainly uses the MME for commutes. My main goal was to soften the ride for rear passengers. Browsing the forums, I saw that there were two options, the progressive Eibach GT performance lowering springs and the linear Eibach lift springs. I copy and pasted their specifications below.
GT lowering springs
Part# E10-35-054-04-22 Pro-Kit
Front – 148-235 lbs/in (progressive)
Rear – 799-1089 lbs/in (progressive)
Lowers: 1.4" Front, 1.3" Rear
Lift springs
Part# E30-35-054-01-22 Pro-Kit
Front – 200 lbs/in (linear)
Rear – 950 lbs/in (linear)
EXT. Bat. Raises: 1.5" Front, 1.5" Rear
STD. Bat Raises: 1.8” Front, 1.8” Rear
I wanted springs which had a softer spring rate like the GT springs without the drop, because I remember reading about the poor Ioniq 5 owner who hit road debris and totaled his car because of suspected battery damage. I saw that MotorTrend posted an article about the Rally where they stated that Ford developed new springs which were 20% and 35% softer in the front and rear respectively compared to a GT. Furthermore, the springs were taller with a 0.8" lift compared to a GT. Huge shoutout to @markboris for finding out from Eibach that the GT springs are ~225lbs/in and ~1015lbs/in in the front and rear respectively which makes the Rally springs ~180lbs/in and ~660lbs/in in the front and rear respectively. This provides a dual benefit, because the springs are both softer and also taller which increases the number of coils which can be compressed. I decided to install them on my RWD ER since they provided the ideal combination that I wanted: softer springs without lowering the car.
Ride comfort: I immediately noticed that the ride is definitely softer than before. There is a street near me that has extremely uneven pavement, and whenever I drove on it I was constantly being jostled around. I drove on that road again, and I noticed a huge difference. I no longer feel any of the small bumps and imperfections on the road. Any larger bumps/imperfections were significantly duller and less bothersome. I no longer felt like I was being jostled left to right over the uneven surface. I also drove over some speed bumps. I used to be unable to drive over them at any speed greater than 20mph, because the rear always felt like it was slamming back down. This always knocked the cargo floor off the top position. Now I am able to comfortably able to go over them at speeds ranging from 20-30mph without that sensation. Honestly it feels pretty close to my wife's RAV4 in terms of ride comfort over uneven surfaces. Truly feels like a different car.
Bounce: I took it out on a road near me that I know induces the bounce, and I was very happy to find out that the new springs reduced the bounce. I no longer felt like the car was ping-ponging up and down. As a caveat though I put 120lb of concrete blocks in the subtrunk a while ago to help reduce the bounciness, and I kept them in the vehicle when I tested it again. This kind of makes sense since the rear bounce is likely caused by a combination of a high spring rate and weak dampers.
An unexpected consequence though was that the front of my car was about 0.7" taller than the rear of the car. At first, @markboris, @HuntingPudel, and I had no idea why that was the case, but then it came to @markboris that my car is missing the front motor and is lighter in the front compared to the AWD/GT/Rally MMEs. I'll be installing the spacers and aligning the car this week.
Pros:
- Ride is much smoother now
- Bounce is not as pronounced
Cons:
- You have to get 2x 1/4" spacers to restore the original rake if you have a RWD car
- Vehicle is about 0.8" taller but honestly not noticable
- Can be expensive to replace springs + align
Parts: (Edit: Many members have found that these parts are now on backorder and that the rear spring has been replaced with a new part that is much more expensive)
2x RK9Z-5310-A --> Front spring
2x RK9Z-5560-A --> Rear spring ("Sport Appearance Pack" is the Rally package for the GT)
2x 1/4" spacers --> https://www.steeda.com/steeda-s550-...iW94m_dtkhNF6yKN9akH2Gkoq7M3Fmu68T6IRYljjKhkI
I ordered the springs from fordpartspros.com for about $300 after shipping.
Side profile
Front
Rear
Huge thanks to @markboris for all his help!
GT lowering springs
Part# E10-35-054-04-22 Pro-Kit
Front – 148-235 lbs/in (progressive)
Rear – 799-1089 lbs/in (progressive)
Lowers: 1.4" Front, 1.3" Rear
Lift springs
Part# E30-35-054-01-22 Pro-Kit
Front – 200 lbs/in (linear)
Rear – 950 lbs/in (linear)
EXT. Bat. Raises: 1.5" Front, 1.5" Rear
STD. Bat Raises: 1.8” Front, 1.8” Rear
I wanted springs which had a softer spring rate like the GT springs without the drop, because I remember reading about the poor Ioniq 5 owner who hit road debris and totaled his car because of suspected battery damage. I saw that MotorTrend posted an article about the Rally where they stated that Ford developed new springs which were 20% and 35% softer in the front and rear respectively compared to a GT. Furthermore, the springs were taller with a 0.8" lift compared to a GT. Huge shoutout to @markboris for finding out from Eibach that the GT springs are ~225lbs/in and ~1015lbs/in in the front and rear respectively which makes the Rally springs ~180lbs/in and ~660lbs/in in the front and rear respectively. This provides a dual benefit, because the springs are both softer and also taller which increases the number of coils which can be compressed. I decided to install them on my RWD ER since they provided the ideal combination that I wanted: softer springs without lowering the car.
Ride comfort: I immediately noticed that the ride is definitely softer than before. There is a street near me that has extremely uneven pavement, and whenever I drove on it I was constantly being jostled around. I drove on that road again, and I noticed a huge difference. I no longer feel any of the small bumps and imperfections on the road. Any larger bumps/imperfections were significantly duller and less bothersome. I no longer felt like I was being jostled left to right over the uneven surface. I also drove over some speed bumps. I used to be unable to drive over them at any speed greater than 20mph, because the rear always felt like it was slamming back down. This always knocked the cargo floor off the top position. Now I am able to comfortably able to go over them at speeds ranging from 20-30mph without that sensation. Honestly it feels pretty close to my wife's RAV4 in terms of ride comfort over uneven surfaces. Truly feels like a different car.
Bounce: I took it out on a road near me that I know induces the bounce, and I was very happy to find out that the new springs reduced the bounce. I no longer felt like the car was ping-ponging up and down. As a caveat though I put 120lb of concrete blocks in the subtrunk a while ago to help reduce the bounciness, and I kept them in the vehicle when I tested it again. This kind of makes sense since the rear bounce is likely caused by a combination of a high spring rate and weak dampers.
An unexpected consequence though was that the front of my car was about 0.7" taller than the rear of the car. At first, @markboris, @HuntingPudel, and I had no idea why that was the case, but then it came to @markboris that my car is missing the front motor and is lighter in the front compared to the AWD/GT/Rally MMEs. I'll be installing the spacers and aligning the car this week.
Pros:
- Ride is much smoother now
- Bounce is not as pronounced
Cons:
- You have to get 2x 1/4" spacers to restore the original rake if you have a RWD car
- Vehicle is about 0.8" taller but honestly not noticable
- Can be expensive to replace springs + align
Parts: (Edit: Many members have found that these parts are now on backorder and that the rear spring has been replaced with a new part that is much more expensive)
2x RK9Z-5310-A --> Front spring
2x RK9Z-5560-A --> Rear spring ("Sport Appearance Pack" is the Rally package for the GT)
2x 1/4" spacers --> https://www.steeda.com/steeda-s550-...iW94m_dtkhNF6yKN9akH2Gkoq7M3Fmu68T6IRYljjKhkI
I ordered the springs from fordpartspros.com for about $300 after shipping.
Side profile
Front
Rear
Huge thanks to @markboris for all his help!
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