GlennMacC
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All,
I’ve owned a 2021 MME (Premium SR) since March of 2022 (I ordered it in May of 2021). I’ve really enjoyed the car, it was and has been perfect for me. For three primary reasons however, I decided to buy a 2025 Premium ER. The reasons I wanted to "upgrade" were the heat pump, ventilated seats, and I wanted the extended range this time, as I found myself taking 100-120 mile (one way) trips often and really wanted to avoid public charging for that length trip. Oh yeah, the other reason was for my 2021, the color I chose was discontinued after I ordered it (a blue gray I believe) so I “settled” for silver, which was OK but not my favorite. This time it was magenta metallic.
All that said, this board has had a number of discussions about the differences between these cars, and now after a couple of weeks of driving the 2025, I thought I'd share the things I’ve noticed that are different. Some better, some worse, some significant, some not so significant (some are ridiculously minor as a matter of fact), and some everyone already knows about. I am no expert, but here goes, in no particular order, but generally from the biggest to the smallest:
The gear selector is on the steering column (what we used to call 3 on the tree - OK, on the MME it is one on the tree) instead of the center console, which allows for a small compartment and USB-C plug in center console - which is appreciated. I do not love the gear selector position, as I've accidentally engaged it a couple of times when my muscle memory caused me to hit the shifter when I intended to engage the windshield wiper, which now resides on the left stalk. This will take some getting used to
There are new dashboard graphics including a battery regen graphic. The graphics are less in your face (thinner typeface, etc.), especially blue cruise and lane keeper. Ford must have hired a new graphic designer. I think they are better, and yes the speedometer is not centered, but it is near the center - this issue has never bothered me FWIW. The lane keeper graphic is much more subtle, so it is not as distracting, but still effective IMO.
There is no green light on the power button - I kinda miss that for confirmation that the car is on or off.
There is a new seatbelt warning graphic on dashboard at startup (annoying, but it goes away).
The seats are 10 way adjustable vs 8 (better lumbar support). Also, the seat moves all the way back when you turn off the car to allow easier exit. Both are nice to have, but somebody seated behind the driver might not think so (I wonder if this is disabled when someone is seated there???.
Ventilated seats are a big change and are really nice in the warm weather.
The turn signal audio sequence is different- two clicks, pause; two clicks, pause, etc. instead of a consistent rhythm. See, I told you some of these were ridiculously small.
Slightly quieter interior I think, the doors feel a bit more solid, though that might be my imagination.
As everyone knows, the frunk is smaller (a lot smaller, but it still works for me). But that allows the heat pump, which I hope improves the winter efficiency, which for me was very bad. So I'll take this trade.
To me, the A/C seems a bit slower to get cold - heat pump issue? But it works fine after maybe 1 minute.
Overall ride is slightly smoother I think. Maybe the added weight of the ER battery? Maybe the suspension was tuned a bit?
Acceleration is noticeably faster - greater hp (and torque) with the extended range battery I think is the difference.
LFP vs. NMC battery. For the extended range, it is still NMC, so no change for me in charge patterns, but the standard range is LFP as I understand it.
Rear trunk button has moved to the center of the lift gate, not the left side.
Frunk opener is on the remote - nice to finally have that.
Regenerative braking feels a bit less aggressive in “Unbridled” mode (the only mode I generally use).
Blue Cruise 1.5 is clearly improved over 1.0, but I really never use it, so I can't really report intelligently on it, except the dashboard graphics are better.
Slightly more padded steering wheel I believe.
Backup chime is different, and maybe not as loud??
That is about all that I have found so far. I'll revise and report back if I find other differences. For me, the upgrade has been worth it. FWIW, I opted not to do the lease (the money factor was OK, but I thought the residual value they quoted was too high, given my experience with the 2021 and that I expected to buy out the lease).
Comments or thoughts welcome.
Glenn
I’ve owned a 2021 MME (Premium SR) since March of 2022 (I ordered it in May of 2021). I’ve really enjoyed the car, it was and has been perfect for me. For three primary reasons however, I decided to buy a 2025 Premium ER. The reasons I wanted to "upgrade" were the heat pump, ventilated seats, and I wanted the extended range this time, as I found myself taking 100-120 mile (one way) trips often and really wanted to avoid public charging for that length trip. Oh yeah, the other reason was for my 2021, the color I chose was discontinued after I ordered it (a blue gray I believe) so I “settled” for silver, which was OK but not my favorite. This time it was magenta metallic.
All that said, this board has had a number of discussions about the differences between these cars, and now after a couple of weeks of driving the 2025, I thought I'd share the things I’ve noticed that are different. Some better, some worse, some significant, some not so significant (some are ridiculously minor as a matter of fact), and some everyone already knows about. I am no expert, but here goes, in no particular order, but generally from the biggest to the smallest:
The gear selector is on the steering column (what we used to call 3 on the tree - OK, on the MME it is one on the tree) instead of the center console, which allows for a small compartment and USB-C plug in center console - which is appreciated. I do not love the gear selector position, as I've accidentally engaged it a couple of times when my muscle memory caused me to hit the shifter when I intended to engage the windshield wiper, which now resides on the left stalk. This will take some getting used to
There are new dashboard graphics including a battery regen graphic. The graphics are less in your face (thinner typeface, etc.), especially blue cruise and lane keeper. Ford must have hired a new graphic designer. I think they are better, and yes the speedometer is not centered, but it is near the center - this issue has never bothered me FWIW. The lane keeper graphic is much more subtle, so it is not as distracting, but still effective IMO.
There is no green light on the power button - I kinda miss that for confirmation that the car is on or off.
There is a new seatbelt warning graphic on dashboard at startup (annoying, but it goes away).
The seats are 10 way adjustable vs 8 (better lumbar support). Also, the seat moves all the way back when you turn off the car to allow easier exit. Both are nice to have, but somebody seated behind the driver might not think so (I wonder if this is disabled when someone is seated there???.
Ventilated seats are a big change and are really nice in the warm weather.
The turn signal audio sequence is different- two clicks, pause; two clicks, pause, etc. instead of a consistent rhythm. See, I told you some of these were ridiculously small.
Slightly quieter interior I think, the doors feel a bit more solid, though that might be my imagination.
As everyone knows, the frunk is smaller (a lot smaller, but it still works for me). But that allows the heat pump, which I hope improves the winter efficiency, which for me was very bad. So I'll take this trade.
To me, the A/C seems a bit slower to get cold - heat pump issue? But it works fine after maybe 1 minute.
Overall ride is slightly smoother I think. Maybe the added weight of the ER battery? Maybe the suspension was tuned a bit?
Acceleration is noticeably faster - greater hp (and torque) with the extended range battery I think is the difference.
LFP vs. NMC battery. For the extended range, it is still NMC, so no change for me in charge patterns, but the standard range is LFP as I understand it.
Rear trunk button has moved to the center of the lift gate, not the left side.
Frunk opener is on the remote - nice to finally have that.
Regenerative braking feels a bit less aggressive in “Unbridled” mode (the only mode I generally use).
Blue Cruise 1.5 is clearly improved over 1.0, but I really never use it, so I can't really report intelligently on it, except the dashboard graphics are better.
Slightly more padded steering wheel I believe.
Backup chime is different, and maybe not as loud??
That is about all that I have found so far. I'll revise and report back if I find other differences. For me, the upgrade has been worth it. FWIW, I opted not to do the lease (the money factor was OK, but I thought the residual value they quoted was too high, given my experience with the 2021 and that I expected to buy out the lease).
Comments or thoughts welcome.
Glenn
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