2022 vs. 2024 Ride Quality

[Bruboy]

Sorry, could you clarify if that is the lowering or raising springs? I believe they have both.

I would lower it. Though I have heard good about both (raised and lowered)

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[azerik]

https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/s...pension-shock-absorber-rear-p-ash866264?pdp=y
I believe these are the new shocks for the 24’s. I’ll Confirm tomorrow that they match up and if so I’ll pin down where to get them as cheap as possible and report back shortly.

 

[DennisD]

https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/s...pension-shock-absorber-rear-p-ash866264?pdp=y
I believe these are the new shocks for the 24’s. I’ll Confirm tomorrow that they match up and if so I’ll pin down where to get them as cheap as possible and report back shortly.

I would assume this is not sold as a pair but rather individually?

I am going to contact Ford to see if mine can be replaced under warranty. I swear there is more bounce now than when it was new and the Service Tech at my Dealership told me to put a "ticket" in with Ford to see if this can be done under warranty. My car only has around 12k on it and they should have lasted much longer than this.

The Service tech was not aware if the 24 part would work in a 22 though?

In any event, hope to hear from you soon.

 

[Bruboy]

So do the 23 MME Premium have the same setup as the 21-22 MME Premium?
If so would the 24 or 25 Shocks make a difference?

 

[DennisD]

So do the 23 MME Premium have the same setup as the 21-22 MME Premium?
If so would the 24 or 25 Shocks make a difference?

From what I was told, they upgraded them in late 22 and I was told they were upgraded again in the 25 models. I am still waiting to hear if it is an easy swap. If it is, I will be upgrading them to the latest but I am not sure if you can get the 25's yet.

I would assume the coil over along with the shocks were both upgraded but I am not sure on that one either.

It is so frustrating to know that Ford realizes they messed up the engineering aspect of it and we are being told nothing.

 

[DonM]

I target 38f/34r warm die to the springs, tires, Koni’s

Are you saying that setting 38 front and 34 rear helps the bounciness significantly? That would be great if I could do that. Can you explain why that works? I'm not knowledgeable about suspensions and such. I have a 2024 Premium Ext range and it's very bouncy.

 

[DonM]

They’re not out yet so nobody knows.

Do you think it will be possible to have Ford upgrade my 2024 Premium ext range to the 2025 magneride suspension some day? Or at least something less bouncy?

 

[azerik]

The 38/34 is only if you’ve changed to Eibach springs.
if the springs havnt changed you’ll want to try to drop the pressure to about 37/37 (I think, there’s old threads in playing with tire pressure) but nothing is a silver bullet on a 5,000lb car sadly.

Do you think it will be possible to have Ford upgrade my 2024 Premium ext range to the 2025 magneride suspension some day? Or at least something less bouncy?

They would happily upgrade you to a 2025 GT/Rally, for about $20,000 and your car trade in, but they wont update the suspension.

 

[jdofter]

I took my 22 CRT1 yesterday for a 30K service and mentioned about the bouncy ride. They checked and told me rear shocks didn’t have travel and told me they will replace them under warranty. Hopefully this will improve the ride quality. PS- they also suggested brake flush is that necessary?

Break flush is recommended per the owners manual at 3 years, regardless of miles.

 

[MoonRiver]

I own a 2022 Premium AWD with extended range battery that is in the shop and it has around 12k miles on the odometer. The loaner that they gave me is a 2024 Select AWD with extended range battery as well with 1,300 miles. When driving it down the Freeway, the 2024 seems to have a much better ride with limited to no bounce in comparison to my 2022. Seems like I am driving a totally different brand of car?

To my knowledge, the Select MME does not come with MagneRide but that was the first thing I checked after driving it to see if that is what made the ride much better. Did they improve the suspension that much on a 24 in comparison to a 22?

Anyone else experience this?

Any noticeable handling difference? My understanding is that the firmer the suspension the batter the handling. I myself prefer handling over ride comfort.

 

[DennisD]

Break flush is recommended per the owners manual at 3 years, regardless of miles.

I think getting your brakes flushed is about as worthless as getting your Sprinkler System blown out in the Fall. I personally don't think either is "needed".

I have owned/driven cars since the 70's and have driven over a million miles and not once, did I have an issue with not flushing the brake system.

Maybe I am lucky but I am guessing that is just one of those things that would rarely be needed.

 

[DennisD]

Any noticeable handling difference? My understanding is that the firmer the suspension the batter the handling. I myself prefer handling over ride comfort.

It seemed to ride the same with fewer bounces.

 

[Mach-Lee]

I think getting your brakes flushed is about as worthless as getting your Sprinkler System blown out in the Fall. I personally don't think either is "needed".

I have owned/driven cars since the 70's and have driven over a million miles and not once, did I have an issue with not flushing the brake system.

Maybe I am lucky but I am guessing that is just one of those things that would rarely be needed.

Brake fluid change is definitely needed in all cars at some point. You probably haven't dealt with rusted piston or boiling fluid before like I have, and maybe haven't seen the improvements a brake flush can make in braking performance. The timeline can be relaxed slightly in drier climates, but the fluid shouldn't go more than about 5 years without a change. I use a brake fluid moisture tester to tell me when to change it. Once the rust starts, then it gets really expensive to replace stuff.

And blowing out sprinklers is also necessary, the water in the low spots WILL crack the pipe. Seen that happen too because of negligence. Blowing out is cheaper than having to dig up pipes to replace them.

Lesson: You can be cheap, but you'll pay the price eventually when it comes to maintenance.

 

[MoonRiver]

Brake fluid change is definitely needed in all cars at some point. You probably haven't dealt with rusted piston or boiling fluid before like I have, and maybe haven't seen the improvements a brake flush can make in braking performance. The timeline can be relaxed slightly in drier climates, but the fluid shouldn't go more than about 5 years without a change. I use a brake fluid moisture tester to tell me when to change it. Once the rust starts, then it gets really expensive to replace stuff.

And blowing out sprinklers is also necessary, the water in the low spots WILL crack the pipe. Seen that happen too because of negligence. Blowing out is cheaper than having to dig up pipes to replace them.

Lesson: You can be cheap, but you'll pay the price eventually when it comes to maintenance.

Can the flushing be DIYed? I have flushed my Camry by myself once.

 

[DennisD]

Brake fluid change is definitely needed in all cars at some point. You probably haven't dealt with rusted piston or boiling fluid before like I have, and maybe haven't seen the improvements a brake flush can make in braking performance. The timeline can be relaxed slightly in drier climates, but the fluid shouldn't go more than about 5 years without a change. I use a brake fluid moisture tester to tell me when to change it. Once the rust starts, then it gets really expensive to replace stuff.

And blowing out sprinklers is also necessary, the water in the low spots WILL crack the pipe. Seen that happen too because of negligence. Blowing out is cheaper than having to dig up pipes to replace them.

Lesson: You can be cheap, but you'll pay the price eventually when it comes to maintenance.

Not certain on the Brake Flush, but the Sprinklers that have been installed in the last 30 plus years don't need to be "blown out".

I live in Omaha and I can recall a time when my younger daughter mistakenly turned the Sprinkler System water valve on Jan. 1st. and the temp was around 3 degrees. It filled the pipes and I had no issues with them in the Spring. Many people think the water pipe breaks because of the "ice" but that is not totally true. It is the pressure that expands and breaks the pipes. The Sprinklers (without the heads filling up) have little to no pressure.

Like I said, I have been doing this since the 70's with no issues. I trade my cars off at around 100k and I usually get around 5 years in them. Maybe the next guy should flush them but I have also kept a car to close to 180k and was 30 plus years old. No problem with that one as well.

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