2025 Model Year Mach-E Available When?

[GreaseMonkey]

I’m surprised they didn’t switch to 25s already. There’s no reason why they are still processing 24s as special orders with Dec deliveries. It’s dumb.

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[VaporTrails]

The 2024s were really late, most likely because of delays related to the pretty substantial mechanical refresh that occurred. The 2022 and 2023 models were much smaller updates, and were released around this time of the year. I'd expect the 2025 to be as well, unless there are additional meaningful changes coming. Yes, Ford has the problem of needing to clear out 2023 models, but if 2025 is mostly a number change, I'd think they'd want to switch over sooner rather than later so that they don't have the same problem with "2024" models in calendar year 2025.

It wouldn't surprise me if there are additional meaningful changes coming for 2025. The three things that seem like they would make sense are 1) a NACS port, 2) the new Ford Digital Experience infotainment system, and 3) an incremental update to the NCM battery pack/cells along the lines of what Hyundai is doing with the Ioniq 5.

1 and 2 make sense. 3 seems too big. Changing to an 800V charging voltage involves non-trivial updates to the HVBJB and the wiring of the pack.

on topic, orders for 2023’s opened around 28 Aug 2022, with the first cars appearing in Nov. I am not sure I would wait on the changes, if you got a good deal.

 

[dpnelson]

1 and 2 make sense. 3 seems too big. Changing to an 800V charging voltage involves non-trivial updates to the HVBJB and the wiring of the pack.

on topic, orders for 2023’s opened around 28 Aug 2022, with the first cars appearing in Nov. I am not sure I would wait on the changes, if you got a good deal.

I don't mean a switch to a new voltage, I mean a change on the scale of the change Hyundai is making from '24 to '25. They're using a "chemistry update" to increase the pack from 77 to 84. kWh. I'm assuming that means different cells with more energy density at the same voltage. The Mach-E originally launched a year earlier, so I'd assume LG has something to offer in the way of cell improvements, and possibly pack internals. There are a lot of really long busbars in the current design.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

I’d be curious to see/hope native NACS charging. 2026 models or late 26’ models maybe android operating system. ?‍

The 2026 models are supposed to be native NACS. Whether Ford transitions the car to Android Automotive that year or not is another question.

 

[load97]

The 2026 models are supposed to be native NACS. Whether Ford transitions the car to Android Automotive that year or not is another question.

I’ve read that as well. Why I said that.

 

[load97]

You’re going to need an adapter anyway. Makes zero difference.

That’s incorrect. Native NACS will be/is an improvement. An adapter will be needed for legacy charging stations going forward for sometime I’m sure. That’s obvious, but new to you?

 

[GreaseMonkey]

That’s incorrect. Native NACS will be/is an improvement. An adapter will be needed for legacy charging stations going forward for sometime I’m sure. That’s obvious, but new to you?

In what sense will it be an improvement? As many have mentioned since the Ford / Tesla announcement came out, the change will happen with a completely redesigned Mach-E, not a model year change or mid-cycle enhancement.

 

[Sikkun]

In what sense will it be an improvement? As many have mentioned since the Ford / Tesla announcement came out, the change will happen with a completely redesigned Mach-E, not a model year change or mid-cycle enhancement.

Many people can never use a legacy charger and be perfectly fine…

And with all manufacturers switching over, legacy chargers will also switch over. So really a legacy adapter isn’t really a “need”.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

Many people can never use a legacy charger and be perfectly fine…

And with all manufacturers switching over, legacy chargers will also switch over. So really a legacy adapter isn’t really a “need”.

Again, how is this an improvement? CCS/J1772 will be around for years to come. We will all use a combo and need an adapter.

 

[Sikkun]

Again, how is this an improvement? CCS/J1772 will be around for years to come. We will all use a combo and need done adapter.

I think I stated many people wouldn’t need an adapter?

I would not buy one.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

I think I stated many people wouldn’t need an adapter?

I would not buy one.

Ok, bro. Don’t get one. Teslas’ve been coming with one since the beginning of time. You can choose to be a contrarian, but most people will need to be able to charge on any type they come across for convenience.

 

[Sikkun]

Ok, bro. Don’t get one. Teslas’ve been coming with one since the beginning of time. You can choose to be a contrarian, but most people will need to be able to charge on any type they come across for convenience.

You bought a vehicle that had no access to NACS chargers until recently. So, apparently people were perfectly willing to limit themselves to a single plug type.

But I guess not needing an adapter to use the largest DC fast charging network is not an improvement.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

You bought a vehicle that had no access to NACS chargers until recently. So, apparently people were perfectly willing to limit themselves to a single plug type.

But I guess not needing an adapter to use the largest DC fast charging network is not an improvement.

At the risk of aging myself: two years ago, every non-Tesla had no access to superchargers. The only way to get access to superchargers then was to buy a Tesla, which needed an adapter to use the CCS network.

NACS inlet is not an improvement. It’s one of two standards that will be with us for a long time. And NACS is more expensive for you (a Mach-E driver) unless you buy a $12 a month subscription.

 

[VaporTrails]

I would not hesitate to buy a 24’ if I were in the market. I think the NACS/CCS thing will not be a problem in a 10-year investment model. Most new chargers are fielding right now with CCS1 capability, and that includes Tesla. If you have a CCS car, there are 3 different vendors of NACS adapters….assuming you ever DCFC the car at a NACS-only location . For most folks, daily charging will be a J1772 charger. That is where you might want a charging cable that doesn’t need an adapter.

 

[GreaseMonkey]

I would not hesitate to buy a 24’ if I were in the market. I think the NACS/CCS thing will not be a problem in a 10-year investment model. Most new chargers are fielding right now with CCS1 capability, and that includes Tesla. If you have a CCS car, there are 3 different vendors of NACS adapters….assuming you ever DCFC the car at a NACS-only location . For most folks, daily charging will be a J1772 charger. That is where you might want a charging cable that doesn’t need an adapter.

Or get a Tesla universal level 2. They work great and are only $100 more than the typical charger. Future proofs the installation.

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