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TLDR: Added a sub, tapped signal from rear left speaker and power from 12v in trunk, swapped rear door speakers. Sounds GREAT!

We all know the entry level speakers are terrible - a tiny magnet & voice coil and no bass under 100hz. I wanted a decent sounding system, but didn't need anything massive - I just want a smooth, full range music production with a bit of punch on the low end. But long gone are my days of massive subwoofers filling the trunk and destroying eardrums. (likely the same with most Mach-e buyers, who tend do be men around 30-50). So I set out to create nice sound while keeping everything looking stock and clean. I also wanted to keep weight and wattage reasonable for obvious reasons. This involved three main steps:
1. Swap rear door speakers
2. Find a signal and power for a sub (the non-B&O has no sub to run from)
3. Add sub

First, I went with some Kicker 2-way 6.5" speakers. I got them from Crutchfield because they seem to do the best car-fitting accessories and instructions. Here's the link, I highly recommend these speakers. They have a bit better low end, but far better high end than the stock speakers- and they are low profile enough to fit. (Crutchfield said I needed to cut some of the door panel surround, and I did for one door, but then found I didn't need to so I didn't on the second door. You can't see any signs of change on the outside). All told, the instructions from Crutchfield also made finding door panel screws and pull pins MUCH easier, so nothing broke (I used a mini-panel pry tool made for this). When done, the sound was much more crisp and clear, but still lacked much punch.

Next, I decided on a sub. As mentioned I wanted a tight bass, but not intersection shaking sound. So I went with a very small, fully enclosed Pioneer sub specifically made for EVs and small cars. It's a 50RMS/120 Max Pioneer TS-WX101A. It's made for low wattage uses like an EV, and it says you can install it in a foot well, but I went with the trunk. It's so much smaller than the subs of 20 years ago, but then we've all seen how much smaller most speakers have gotten while improving performance - I can just say it has bass as good as my Sonos system at home.

Then the most uncharted part -I had to source signal for the sub and decide a location. I went with the back trunk, mostly because the sub happens to fit perfectly and the 12v power supply was right there. Yes, I used the cigarette lighter as a power source, which works when the draw is less than 100 watts RMS. I put in a 10 AMP fuse on the aftermarket 12v heavy duty plug, and it has never had any problems or blown any fuses. For the signal, I tapped into the rear door left speaker signal. I opened the column's panels, and unwrapped the wire bundle. [Sorry, I forgot to take pics!] I found the two wires that matched the speaker's colors, carefully stripped them, and then soldered on a new 2-strand wire. I ran that under panels and under the seat to the back left of the trunk. There I met the sub with RCA cords, and pulled it all together. The sub sounds great, and the signal is, I can confirm, full range. (They don't filter any bass out of the signal to the rear door speakers with a digital high-pass filter function - if they did, then it would not work as a subwoofer input source.)

Then I did one final and optional step - I 3D printed a little cover and added matching felt so that the sub looks very subtle and almost invisible if you don't know what you're looking for. I'm really happy with the final result.



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Also here's a pic of the non-B&O rear speaker. Pretty weak. Bananas for scale for the fellow interwebs nerds.

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Hm - this is super helpful, and your description of who is buying Mach-E’s was pretty accurate (at least for me. ?) I too want better sound, but nothing too intrusive or over the top - sounds like your approach is working.

A few questions..
- I know you don’t have pictures of the sub’s audio hook-up but can you point me to which column & panel you’re referring to?
- Is there any way to solder the 12v connection for the sub to free up that 12v and otherwise keep it clean?
- Did you solder the 2-wire & RCA connectors (cut/strip/solder)? Or how’d that work?
- How does it sound overall w/ the sub?
 
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Hm - this is super helpful, and your description of who is buying Mach-E’s was pretty accurate (at least for me. ?) I too want better sound, but nothing too intrusive or over the top - sounds like your approach is working.

A few questions..
- I know you don’t have pictures of the sub’s audio hook-up but can you point me to which column & panel you’re referring to?
- Is there any way to solder the 12v connection for the sub to free up that 12v and otherwise keep it clean?
- Did you solder the 2-wire & RCA connectors (cut/strip/solder)? Or how’d that work?
- How does it sound overall w/ the sub?
Hi,
1. Where to tap for sub-signal: the place I tapped the wires is shown in green in this image. The Blue shows the speaker line and the green is the line I ran. I can't remember which colors, but once I opened the door it was easy to see the colors that actually connected with the left-rear-door speaker.
2. For trunk 12v access - You could pop out the 12v socket and solder in, then run behind the panel and come out through a small hole drilled in panel. But I decided to minimize non-removable wires so I just went w the clean 12v plug.
3. Signal cord to sub: It was the included stripped wire to RCA wire that was included with the sub. Then I did a RCA to twin RCA splitter to make the single signal into a left and right, which connect to the sub's input RCAs.

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I would also mention - going with Crutchfield was great because their manual gave lots of pics and made it so much less complicated.
 


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Cool man. I have the B&O System which is acceptable fine. But anyway. Nice to see people touch this as somehow modern audio systems are much more closed systems compared to stuff from the 80s and 90s.

I would have tried to get the power cable invisible by getting power from the 12V socket behind the cover. Question: would that small sub fit behind the grill cover to make it completely stealth?
 
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That's a great question about whether the sub could fit behind the panel. My guess is no, and the panel is a little hard to get off so I didn't check. But I'm sure the stock units with no subwoofer have an empty space there so it would be worth checking.
It might also be worth someone building an aftermarket bracket to put a standard 6x9 sub into that space. If I had access to a open Premium with the b&o subwoofer, I would be willing to take a shot at 3D printing a bracket. But again that might be too much modification for some, and my approach tried to retain the ability to cleanly remove everything.
I may get the gumption to go hide my 12 volt power supply someday as well.
 
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Welcome to the subclub my man! We are many. And we are loud(er). That is a bananas tiny sub you installed there - very cool.
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Welcome to the subclub my man! We are many. And we are loud(er). That is a bananas tiny sub you installed there - very cool.
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Do you have details on this sub / install (another post maybe?) I'm teetering on getting a sub added. I feel the speakers otherwise (I have the B&O system) are OK enough for my needs, but man the bass is WEAK.
 

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Do you have details on this sub / install (another post maybe?) I'm teetering on getting a sub added. I feel the speakers otherwise (I have the B&O system) are OK enough for my needs, but man the bass is WEAK.
This is the thread to read.

I got all my info there and modified a bit for my own* install. @markboris’s thread is the best hands down. I posted my install details in that thread - somewhere in that thread. LOL

*What speaker lines to tap into since I have a Select with no B&O factory sub and remote turn on for example.
 

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I’m wondering if I can do a variation of this install on a B&O…I l know instructions exist here in threads, but I’d like to avoid ripping anything out.
 

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I’m wondering if I can do a variation of this install on a B&O…I l know instructions exist here in threads, but I’d like to avoid ripping anything out.
The two posts prior will give you some ideas.
 

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Thanks for all the tips guys and gals! I decided to go with the JL Audio C2-650X for all the doors and the JL Audio C1-075ct for the Dash Tweeters. I'll be putting those in this weekend.

I'm still going to be reading a bunch on here before I try a sub as I would like to do a JL Audio sub. I don't need to burn my battery out or mess something up though! That is for sure. If anyone has a JL Audio suggestion (Amp, Sub, or both) that would be great!

Thanks!
 
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Thanks for all the tips guys and gals! I decided to go with the JL Audio C2-650X for all the doors and the JL Audio C1-075ct for the Dash Tweeters. I'll be putting those in this weekend.

I'm still going to be reading a bunch on here before I try a sub as I would like to do a JL Audio sub. I don't need to burn my battery out or mess something up though! That is for sure. If anyone has a JL Audio suggestion (Amp, Sub, or both) that would be great!

Thanks!
That sounds really nice- a high end selection! I think door speakers will work well given the low profile form (the doors don't allow much depth).
My only thought is that maybe you could put those in the back doors, then look for a matched component system for the front w/ tweeters?
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