Hmm, it seems Ford has been pretty open about it since a day after the announcement.
Ford Focus Electric is FWD and was great. I love the Volt, but the Bolt didn't feel like anything special, not sure what you think GM has done that is special.
Except this isn’t even close to official. A Focus Group is just that…. A focus groupHmm, it seems Ford has been pretty open about it since a day after the announcement.
On the Ford page for the lightning it lists both the equipment packages noted in that list, and it has at least the pricing for the Pro and XLT up to top spec.
You said they were the only ones to get it right, that by extension means they did something special that Ford didn't do years before the Bolt launched. The FFE is a Hatchback, FWD, Decent Interior, and definitely low $30ks. You made the claim they were the only ones, not me.
I prefer physical buttons but at least the climate controls aren't on the touch screen so that if anything happens with the screen I can still control the hvac easily. Even now with the Mach E there is a delay when the screen is loading on initial start up and the hvac controls aren't always responsive at first. I really wish it had physical buttons but I appreciate the futuristic vibe that's a step closer to Tesla but not nearly as minimal. I kinda dig the sleek look it gives the dash.
Yeah, the big center screen is the only part of the MME I am worried about. I only spent a short time with it, but despite being very into new tech and willing to put up with the bugs of bleeding edge stuff, I feel the large screen was Ford trying to be like Tesla at the expense of user experience. Again, maybe that isn't the case and I will come to love the screen. But I have used on-screen climate control systems before, and have yet to see them do something physical buttons cannot except get out of the way if the whole screen is needed for something. Like how Teslas screen can turn almost the entire thing into a Nav map.
The Focus had a good interior, with a 0-60 in the 6 second range and over 250 miles of range?
Fair enough, the range is of course very different, but the technology underneath is a few miles apart. I think the first FFE was 2012 or so? Not saying its an excuse, I just happen to think Ford did a pretty good job on it, even if it was more of a compliance vehicle.
The Nissan is configured with just the basic paint and what not.On the Ford page for the lightning it lists both the equipment packages noted in that list, and it has at least the pricing for the Pro and XLT up to top spec.
That is directly off the Lightning page on ford.com.
Below that is:
You can scroll to the right and see the other trims and their included options.
I know that table I posted was about a focus group from earlier in the Lightning announcements, but about 80% of the same info is right on the Ford page.
As to the build and price, I don't think you have much experience with Ford. They don't put the B&P up until dealer orders are open, often 1-2 weeks after. That has been that way for as long as I have known. Sometimes they have exceptions like I think for the Bronco they had a configuration builder on there, but it didn't have prices yet just to put together your accessories and that. That kind of thing is rare.
As for Nissan, I am just missing their build and price I guess. Unless all it is is where you can select trim level, AWD or FWD, and exterior color? I mean, as far as B&P goes that's about as useful as what Ford has released, we know exterior colors, trim levels, AWD, and ER or SR batteries, same as Nissan. It may just be because they don't have a lot of individual options like when you order a Mach-E, you pick basically the same stuff. It's a very slim configuration and that's fine, makes things easy. But the Lightning looks like it will be a little more involved than the Nissan.
Anyway, I am not here to defend Ford not having the order guide or B&P up for the Lightning, I wish it was. But you insinuated their reasoning was they are waiting to announce pricing until they find out about the tax credit. Ford only moved the order date out about a month (Early December), and I happen to know it had nothing to do with tax incentives. So my counter to you is just that Ford is publishing at least a portion of the Lightning pricing, they may have the other trims in press releases I am not going to dig around forever. But the point is if they wanted to wait to release prices, they wouldn't have any of them on their site.
Yeah, I really want to find out if the Lariat can get the B&O Unleashed as an option or not. What I kind of took from how Ford did the Mach-E is that what you see on the Ford.com page and even in that table I posted way earlier is it per trim level. Like the Mach-E, you will just get to pick LR or SR (in some trims anyway), and your paint color and maybe interior color, and that's about it. It sounds like power running boards will be an option on Lariat and above too.
