Beosonic

[rugedraw]

Which says "A double-tap on the white marker activates surround sound mode."

Sure enough, a double-tap added extra circles around the marker and flipped to "Surround"

You beat me to it. One of the guys on the ICE forums that made this change discovered that the double-tap works for that.

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[McSquashy]

This update may be enough for me to buy a license and mess around with FORScan.

Thank you, @AtomicInternet for figuring it out!

 

[AtomicInternet]

This update may be enough for me to buy a license and mess around with FORScan.

Thank you, @AtomicInternet for figuring it out!

I always grab the free one for 2 months. I rarely use it once I get everything changed, and so far I restore/reload my laptop before I need it again, so I get a new machineid and another free 2 months.

https://forscan.org/support/prepare_trial_el_request.php?lang=en

 

[carbonizedbrett]

I don't have my Mach E anymore but when I tested multi-channel flac files, only the front left and front right channels played.

Has anybody tested with any discrete surround files after this update?

 

[AtomicInternet]

I don't have my Mach E anymore but when I tested multi-channel flac files, only the front left and front right channels played.

Has anybody tested with any discrete surround files after this update?

Found a whole mess of test audio files I'll try out with surround Beosonic active.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JxmeedtAtgmoafXv9rroiDOS2vEX7N4b

 

[carbonizedbrett]

Found a whole mess of test audio files I'll try out with surround Beosonic active.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JxmeedtAtgmoafXv9rroiDOS2vEX7N4b

That's exactly where I sourced the test files I used!

Don't expect the mp4 or atmos files to play.

I'd start with the FLAC 5.1.flac and the LPCM 7.1.wav.

Those should be recognized and play without errors. If you hear more than two channels, that will be a significant change!

If the update means the Mach E can play rips of DVD-Audio, SACD, and Blu-ray PureAudio discs, that would be something!

 

[AtomicInternet]

That's exactly where I sourced the test files I used!

Don't expect the mp4 or atmos files to play.

I'd start with the FLAC 5.1.flac and the LPCM 7.1.wav.

Those should be recognized and play without errors. If you hear more than two channels, that will be a significant change!

If the update means the Mach E can play rips of DVD-Audio, SACD, and Blu-ray PureAudio discs, that would be something!

I switched between Beosonic and Equalizer for all of the FLAC xxx.flac files, including "Stereo" and "Surround" modes for each.

They played ONLY the front left / front right as you experienced.

The only file that gave me left/center/front/surround channels was the Dolby Surround 4.0 LCRSur.flac file: Dolby Surround 4.0 LCRSur

It didn't even recognize the rest of the files. Looks like no change on codec support.

 

[carbonizedbrett]

I switched between Beosonic and Equalizer for all of the FLAC xxx.flac files, including "Stereo" and "Surround" modes for each.

They played ONLY the front left / front right as you experienced.

The only file that gave me left/center/front/surround channels was the Dolby Surround 4.0 LCRSur.flac file: Dolby Surround 4.0 LCRSur

It didn't even recognize the rest of the files. Looks like no change on codec support.

It seemed really strange to me that the 4.0 flac file wasn't limited to just Front Left and Front Right. Then it occurred to met that it was Dolby 4.0, which suggested it might be old-school Dolby Pro-Logic that used some analog encoding wizardry to steer 2-channel (stereo) audio to F/C/R and a common Rear Surround channel, hence 4.0.

I downloaded the file and opened it in Audacity and sure enough, it's a 2-channel file. So the stereo-to-surround processing the B&O does is playing nicely with that file. Fascinating!

 

[carbonizedbrett]

In other codec news, I did discover the Mach E will play stereo DSD encoded audio from .dsf files.

I used sample files - actual music, this time! - from here: https://www.oppodigital.com/hra/dsd-by-davidelias.aspx

If I recall correctly, it would recognize a multichannel dsf file but display an error when trying to play it.

My GV60 B&O will not recognize .dsf files but it does play multichannel flacs, Dolby AC3 in m4a or mka files, and other 5.1 and 7.1 DTS and Dolby formats (not Atmos, though) in mka audio files and mp4 video files. It does not do well with the tags in mka files, which is annoying.

I hadn't discovered the mka container until after I turned in my Mach E but I think the primary advantage is that it can store the original DTS encoding which is quite a bit less data than a FLAC conversion of it.

 

[Mark Hassa]

Oh yeah, skipped that part lol. It's working now, and I can hear a difference.

Only downside is I can't switch to "Surround" for Sound Mode now (lower down in sound settings). It keeps flipping back to "Stereo"

EDIT: I can pick "Surround" if I flip to "Equalizer" instead of "Beosonic" so nothing lost with this change.

Tried installing this on my 2021 Job 2 Premium with B&O and couldn't get it to work at all. Forscan reported issues with modules not communicating so I had to revert back to factory settings.

 

[rugedraw]

Tried installing this on my 2021 Job 2 Premium with B&O and couldn't get it to work at all. Forscan reported issues with modules not communicating so I had to revert back to factory settings.

Can't get it to work on 21-23 F150's with either the 8 speaker or 18 speaker B&O systems. It worked on a 2024 F150. Trying to see if it works for the Lightning guys or not. Another 2023 Mach E owner got it working last night who was talking to me via PM.

Maybe a difference in hardware between the model years here?

 

[Mark Hassa]

Do you have the link to the guy who got it working on a 2024 F-150? I can try it on mine and see if I get it to work.

Can't get it to work on 21-23 F150's with either the 8 speaker or 18 speaker B&O systems. It worked on a 2024 F150. Trying to see if it works for the Lightning guys or not. Another 2023 Mach E owner got it working last night who was talking to me via PM.

Maybe a difference in hardware between the model years here?

 

[rugedraw]

Do you have the link to the guy who got it working on a 2024 F-150? I can try it on mine and see if I get it to work.

All he did was use a 9 instead of an 8 in the APIM:

https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/thr...an-list-database-spreadsheet.1578/post-511990

 

[AtomicInternet]

Just FYI, you're supposed to increment whatever value is in that position to enable it. The F-150 forums have a great spreadsheet for their vehicles.

Just increment the value in the indicated position by the number. The numbers after those are just CRC and don't matter (FORscan sorts it out).

For DSP, increment by 1.
For APIM, increment by 8.

I'd say all our vehicles SHOULD end up with the same numbers since we have the same configurations

Changes applied to:
DSP 783-01-01 xx1x xx
APIM 7D0-01-01 xxx8 xxxx xx

 

[rugedraw]

Just FYI, you're supposed to increment whatever value is in that position to enable it. The F-150 forums have a great spreadsheet for their vehicles.

Just increment the value in the indicated position by the number. The numbers after those are just CRC and don't matter (FORscan sorts it out).

For DSP, increment by 1.
For APIM, increment by 8.

I'd say all our vehicles SHOULD end up with the same numbers since we have the same configurations

Changes applied to:
DSP 783-01-01 xx1x xx
APIM 7D0-01-01 xxx8 xxxx xx

Yea, I getcha, but an 8 in the APIM didn't work for me or several others that tried with both B&O systems. I though at first it may only work on the 6 channel DSP and not the 10 channel we have with the 18 speaker system, but same results in both cases.

This is what I show here:

Another member tried changing -02-01 Xxxx to a few different values to see if changing vehicle types helped any, but that didn't help, either. Turning noise canceling on/off also didn't help. We're still tinkering with it. I plan on messing with it on Sunday when I have some time to try and figure it out.

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