Blue Cruise Dangerous Experience!

[Gullwingdmc]

I would have been toast if the error occurred midway though a bend in the highway

So the title of the thread really should be “BlueCruise Dangerous Experience … I came up with”. I mean Godzilla could have stepped out in front of your car, but that didn’t happen either.

There is a reason BlueCruise is level 2 and not 3. The driver is required to pay attention and be ready to resume control at any time. Yes it disengaged quickly on you, but that is not the norm and those kinds of exceptions are why you have to be ready to resume control at a moments notice.

Also, if you had been on that sharp of a bend in the highway BlueCruise would have preemptively disengaged hands free and prompted you to put your hands back on the wheel before the turn even started.

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[MellowJohnny]

No, in Wisconsin turn lanes and exit lanes are wide open gaps, no dashed lines:

Same. So now I'm very curious to see how 1.3 handles it. The only video I've see so far was @Mach-E VLOG in Detroit. I was impressed to see the car drive perfectly straight as Patrick drove past a freeway exit, until I saw dashed lines painted on the road.

Crossing fingers.

 

[The Electric Duo]

Same. So now I'm very curious to see how 1.3 handles it. The only video I've see so far was @Mach-E VLOG in Detroit. I was impressed to see the car drive perfectly straight as Patrick drove past a freeway exit, until I saw dashed lines painted on the road.

Crossing fingers.

There was another point later in the video where the right light disappeared for a bit and the car just followed the left line. Hopefully it handles exits the same way.

 

[electric-in-the-desert]

No, in Wisconsin turn lanes and exit lanes are wide open gaps, no dashed lines:

In that situation you better hold on because you have about a 50% chance of getting yeeted left or right randomly like a Plinko board.

Another major issue I have is with the white taper lines coming back over after intersections. It will want to follow the white line and send you over the yellow line:

That is the most dangerous one because you can quickly end up in the oncoming lane if you don't have a firm grip.

Yeah that’s not great… 1.2 seems to have sorted out 99% of those lane following errors from my experience. Though there is one spot with a lane merge and some weird line markings by my house that it always chimes “resume control”

 

[bshaw]

That is the most dangerous one because you can quickly end up in the oncoming lane if you don't have a firm grip.

I thought BC only activates on divided highways?

 

[JDP That's Me in My MachE]

Honestly, this feels extremely alarmist. I have had it completely cut out and bypass drive assist before, it chimes and I responded as I should have since I am the one controlling the vehicle. I will say that again. I AM THE ONE IN COMMAND. If you think it was "crazy dangerous" I question how much attention you actually had at the moment it canceled. You are to be able to take over at any time, for any reason. If you are caught off guard, then you're using BC wrong from the start.

Yup. Agree with all. Driver assist, not driver.

 

[Mach-Lee]

I thought BC only activates on divided highways?

Hands-free mode is for divided highways, but the hands-on lane centering is also part of BlueCruise. It's the same software stack.

 

[jpiazza67]

I was in control. Nothing happened other than BC outright failed working. It failed on a straight stretch of road so there was no danger to for me or anyone driving nearby. There was no warning or if there was it was a fraction of a second. If it cuts out in a turn going 60-70, and hands are not already on the wheel to start the turn, there absolutely would not have been time to prevent a lane change or car crash, no matter how well a driver is paying attention.

 

[Deleted member 16048]

I was in control. Nothing happened other than BC outright failed working. It failed on a straight stretch of road so there was no danger to for me or anyone driving nearby. There was no warning or if there was it was a fraction of a second. If it cuts out in a turn going 60-70, and hands are not already on the wheel to start the turn, there absolutely would not have been time to prevent a lane change or car crash, no matter how well a driver is paying attention.

Yeah, again you are failing to take responsibility. That's what we are all pointing out. If you were in that much of a danger, you failed to pay attention already. Plain and simple...

 

[AliRafiee]

I’ve tested this in this way. I had it on and covered the eye scanner. It said look at road, followed by take control, then cancel with tons of beeping, then it started rocking the car by tapping the brakes, and finally came to a stop.
It was in control the entire time.

 

[bshaw]

Hands-free mode is for divided highways, but the hands-on lane centering is also part of BlueCruise. It's the same software stack.

You mean blue bubble, but not blue background right?
Does hands-on lane centering work without a blue cruise subscription?
I’ve always thought hands-on mode will require the subscription, but people in this forum have sworn up and down that the subscription is only to enable hands free mode.

 

[Stanmckinney]

I do not trust it and will never use it.

 

[woody]

BC1.0 has been nice but it’s not trustworthy and it’s dangerous. I was driving back from Baltimore to Raleigh 10 days ago and BC canceled, immediately terminating steering control, skipping past drive assist hands on the wheel part. That is a crazy dangerous condition that should NEVER happen. I would have been toast if the error occurred midway though a bend in the highway… being ready to take the wheel is not enough time to prevent a crash with an error like this in a turn. I seriously question the use of auto pilot tech by manufacturers. What happened to fail safe systems?

The forum members will blame you for the fault.
Best not to use BC (as w/ any new, less than working tech.).

 

[JohnFoxeSheets]

I've had BCHF suddenly cancel many times, including on curves. Honestly it was never an emergency situation whatsoever. Like someone pointed out, it's not as though the steering was suddenly straightened out and I fear running into another lane or the center divider. I simply took hold of the steering wheel. Not a big deal at all.

What folks seem to not realize is that shit happens. The sun glinting off the window of an on-coming truck or a building near the road or... can easily blind the camera. There's a specific time of day during a specific time of year where I stop using BC because it cuts out so much due to the angle of the sun. I don't like it, and I hope BC 1.3 improves in this area (along with many others). But it's reality.

ADAS 2.0. Driver beware. Driver be ready.

 

[Deleted member 16048]

Then honestly what is the point of it?

When I put dishes in the dishwasher and start the dishwasher, I don't sit there for 45 minutes and watch it wash the dishes.

Clearly you don’t understand ADAS at all. Comparing it to a dishwasher is a joke. BC is NOT automatic, it’s only an assist.

The point of it is to ease the stress of driving. Which it does very well. It takes some cognitive load off but not all. And only enough to make it feel easier.

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