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i charge my mach-e with Solar. So, every time because of some reasons, the Power switches off. No failure. But, mach-e will report failure and i have to to the car, switch on and
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i charge my mach-e with Solar. So, every time because of some reasons, the Power switches off. No failure. But, mach-e will report failure and i have to to the car, switch on and
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This seems like a half of a question?

What comes after the and ?
 
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...i have to go to the car, switch on, press ok for "charging failure", return to home and start charging again. In fact, no error had occured at any System and at least I would wish that via fordpass app it would be possible to reset this " failure"
 


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...i have to go to the car, switch on, press ok for "charging failure", return to home and start charging again. In fact, no error had occured at any System and at least I would wish that via fordpass app it would be possible to reset this " failure"
"Charging fault" usually means there is a problem with your EVSE, not the car. Which one are you using?

Edit: It looks like you're in Austria, so I won't be able to help. Different charging tech.
 
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When the main power for this device is cut off

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It seems to me that the car is expecting power to be delivered and it’s getting cut off from your description. The car does not know that charging is being paused, so when it sees that the power it is expecting is terminated, it doesn’t know what id going on. Thus, it thinks there is a fault with the supply equipment. The supply equipment needs to monitor the supply of power and perform a graceful pause of power rather than just going off line due to loss of power. 🤔🐩
 

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Several years ago there were some problematic EVSE that would cause these sorts of errors, and one guess was that the EVSE relays had too much latency. Switching to a different EVSE resolved the issue.

You may have luck contacting your EVSE manufacturer and sending them your OBD codes. They may be able to adjust their firmware to not be so laggy, or to communicate with your MME better.

Good luck!
 

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It seems to me that the car is expecting power to be delivered and it’s getting cut off from your description. The car does not know that charging is being paused, so when it sees that the power it is expecting is terminated, it doesn’t know what id going on. Thus, it thinks there is a fault with the supply equipment. The supply equipment needs to monitor the supply of power and perform a graceful pause of power rather than just going off line due to loss of power. 🤔🐩
Correct, with J1772 car expects the pilot duty cycle to be set to 100% or constant 12V if the EVSE is to stop charging. If the EVSE just shuts off the pilot signal, that will cause a charge fault because it's not how it's supposed to work according to the J1772 standard. I don't know what the European standard is, but it's probably a similar thing where the EVSE is not doing things correctly. It is also a problem if the duty cycle or 12V is cut off too soon before the high voltage AC is shut off, because the car thinks there's a problem with the EVSE not opening the AC relay. Again, the J1772 standard says you can't do that, so faults will be generated as a result of the EVSE not being compliant with the standards.
 

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When the main power for this device is cut off

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Your solar is probably cutting off due to lack of sun or insufficient power and the EVSE is not going through a graceful shutdown. Think of it like pulling the plug on your computer instead of shutting down properly, your computer will think there was a fault when it is booted back up.
 

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I'm certainly not an expert on this, but I'm wondering about "with Solar". Does anything in the flow from the solar panels to the car ensure that power is delivered consistently?

The EVSE certainly doesn't, other than detect that it isn't consistent and break the connection.

If the flow from the solar panels was to a battery, that battery probably wouldn't care if the power isn't consistent, but for sure the car and probably the EVSE is going to care.

I think for this to work right, the flow would have to be solar to battery, and battery to EVSE.
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