Cost to drive EV per state NYT Shared Article

[Space_Pony]

Just to clarify the rate you mentioned… far as I can tell that is the ultra low overnight in Ontario where the on peak rate is an astronomical 28.4 cents/KWh.
In BC with the time of day pricing, the standard rate is 12.63 cents regular hours, 7.63 over night, and 17.63 on peak hours.
Obviously I charge my Mach E GT over night at 7.63 which comes out to $1.91/100 km where I’m averaging 4.4km/KW. The fast charge rate at say Chevron is 39 cents/KWh. which brings the price up to $9.75/100 km. Comparing that to my Golf R using premium gas at $2.00/litre and 10L/100km is $20/100km.
My VW Atlas averages 12L/100km with price of gas at $1.60/litre comes out to $19.20/100km.
This EV is still far cheaper than my ICE cars by far.

Our gas is $.71/liter and DCFC's are $.50-.60/kWh so that would change the conclusions.

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[Space_Pony]

What! $2.30 per kWh?

Even in California the highest I have seen is .74 and the “normal” is .65.

Dealer doesn't want anybody to use it.

 

[ghaskins]

Interesting article. I'm also in MA. At $0.344/kWh, charging at home doesn't save much compared to my last ICE car. Luckily, I get free charging at work and try to do at least half of my charging there.

I was going to add a related note: Depends on your location within a state, too, I bet. I live in MA but have municipal power that is relatively cheap: $0.183/kWh. My parents also live in MA but in a town served by national grid and pay about 2x.

 

[JoeBeach]

Thank God for Florida Power and Light. My trips are mostly in Florida and into south
Georgia. I top up before leaving Florida and pay $0.30/kwh at FPL Evolution fast chargers. The rest is all home charging. If the other power providers would offer chargers, it might bring the price down overall.

 

[MP7]

I was going to add a related note: Depends on your location within a state, too, I bet. I live in MA but have municipal power that is relatively cheap: $0.183/kWh. My parents also live in MA but in a town served by national grid and pay about 2x.

That’s an awfully big fluctuation within the state. I’m in the Berkshires, served by Eversource. Our electric bill shows us paying $0.194/kWh for electricity, but when you factor in delivery, fees, and taxes, it’s almost double that.

If you take your total electric bill and divide it by the number of kWh used, I’d be willing to bet that it’s a fair amount more than $0.183/kWh.

 

[ghaskins]

That’s an awfully big fluctuation within the state. I’m in the Berkshires, served by Eversource. Our electric bill shows us paying $0.194/kWh for electricity, but when you factor in delivery, fees, and taxes, it’s almost double that.

If you take your total electric bill and divide it by the number of kWh used, I’d be willing to bet that it’s a fair amount more than $0.183/kWh.

Actually, the 0.183 is the final cost (I think its about 0.12 for the power and 0.06 for the delivery). Municipal power is notoriously cheap compared to the folks that are subject to National Grid. When I moved it 12 years ago, it was 0.129 out the door, so we certainly aren't immune to inflation, but IIUC the muni's negotiate rates in a multi-year contract so its much less susceptible.

In any case, ive always been paying a fraction of what my parents pay. The downside is we arent eligible for a lot of the "MassSave" rebates, but really those are only a small consolation prize to those subject to the National Grid prices.

 

[MP7]

Actually, the 0.183 is the final cost (I think its about 0.12 for the power and 0.06 for the delivery). Municipal power is notoriously cheap compared to the folks that are subject to National Grid. When I moved it 12 years ago, it was 0.129 out the door, so we certainly aren't immune to inflation, but IIUC the muni's negotiate rates in a multi-year contract so its much less susceptible.

In any case, ive always been paying a fraction of what my parents pay. The downside is we arent eligible for a lot of the "MassSave" rebates, but really those are only a small consolation prize to those subject to the National Grid prices.

Wow, that’s fantastic! I’d love to have electric rates like that.

 

[Blue highway]

Is that because of hydro?

Generation cost is a small portion of our electric bill regardless of where we are...
The cost components are Generation, Transmission, Distribution, and junk fees.

The culprits for high cost even in crazy cost Cali and New England are mostly regulation driven outside the cost of generation.

 

[ChrisO]

Generation cost is a small portion of our electric bill regardless of where we are...
The cost components are Generation, Transmission, Distribution, and junk fees.

The culprits for high cost even in crazy cost Cali and New England are mostly regulation driven outside the cost of generation.

I get my electricity generation from San Jose, 100% renewables, which is a slightly more than from PG&E (not all renewables), but the transmission through PG&E and slightly more than half is the transmission and their fees.

In the case for water we use very little, there is the base charge/delivery charges and then the actual usage charge. Our usage charge is less than 10% of the bill.

Off hand, I don’t know what the percentage is for natural gas, but it is probably similar to the electricity.

 

[RandallOfLegend]

My electric is very cheap at home. 100 miles for me will cost me around $2.26 on average. Using 2.8 mpkw range. My electricity averages 6.35 cents per KWh. My Subaru Crosstrek which I consider a good comparison to the Mach-E averages 27 mpg under similar conditions. Current fuel cost in my area is $3.30 so it would be about $12.22 per 100 miles.

An EV was a no contest for me. I drive 11k miles a year. $1,344 dollars fuel + $300 in dealer oil changes a year vs $249 in electricity...

 

[moritzes]

My electric is very cheap at home. 100 miles for me will cost me around $2.26 on average. Using 2.8 mpkw range. My electricity averages 6.35 cents per KWh. My Subaru Crosstrek which I consider a good comparison to the Mach-E averages 27 mpg under similar conditions. Current fuel cost in my area is $3.30 so it would be about $12.22 per 100 miles.

An EV was a no contest for me. I drive 11k miles a year. $1,344 dollars fuel + $300 in dealer oil changes a year vs $249 in electricity...

That's amazing. Where in NY are you? Niagara or nuclear?

 

[ericNdfw]

Removed link because it’s essentially a copywrite violation .

I'm curious how the link was violating any copyright?

 

[RandallOfLegend]

That's amazing. Where in NY are you? Niagara or nuclear?

Suburb of Rochester. They effectively prepay Niagara for electric every year and sell it back to the residents. A power company that doesn't make power.

 

[moritzes]

Suburb of Rochester. They effectively prepay Niagara for electric every year and sell it back to the residents. A power company that doesn't make power.

Nice deal!
(My wife, BTW, is from LeRoy and her parents now live at Conesus half the year so I'm familiar with your neck of the woods. Cheers!)

 

[JoeBeach]

Here in Central Florida we have Florida Power and light (FPL). My cost are about $0.155 per kwh. Our cost is a base to have electricity, a non-fuel cost for operation, a fuel cost, a franchise fee and taxes to the municipality or county. The last two are about 10 % of the total and go locally. The other real advantage is that FPL has Fast DC charge stations around the state and they only charge $0.30 per kwh. I try to always use them.

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