Creep mode on Mach-E

[SnBGC]

Hmm When I let my wife drive it around we turned off 1-P and it was creeping...especially in reverse.

Maybe it wasn't and she just didn't noticed?? Now I have to go for a ride LOL

Edit: Ok I just took a short drive turning on/off the modes, turns out we're both right:

• 1-P mode on: No creep
• 1-P mode off, autohold on: creep but to get it to creep after coming to a stop you have to tap the go pedal otherwise it will sit there. Tap the pedal and it will start creeping even if you take your foot off the go pedal
• 1-P mode off, autohold off: creep if you take your foot off the brake

Yes. That is what I observed as well.

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[SnBGC]

Driving modes may also play a part in this. More creep in Whisper vs Engage or Unbridled?

Possibly.
Me:
"Honey. I need to take out the Mach-E and test something"

Her:
"Geez. Get a room already. You have fondled that car so much you better put a ring on it!"

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

Test drove a Model S when they first came out. Attendant was in passenger seat and I noticed a button labeled "creep". I asked what it meant, but before she could answer I blurted out "Is that where the battery charges the exterior of the car so when pan handlers approach, you do not get asked for money?"

She said "No!"

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[eltonlin]

I like the ability to creep, but driving in San Francisco without Auto Hold makes life difficult.

 

[SnBGC]

I like the ability to creep, but driving in San Francisco without Auto Hold makes life difficult.

You had me at "Driving in San Francisco....."

 

[dbsb3233]

I've turned AutoHold off. I don't like not creeping when I let up on the bake. Makes it really hard to inch forward when you have to move your foot to the accelerator pedal. Gonna hit the wall in the garage if you don't jump back to the brake fast.

In reverse the creep is almost too fast.

 

[EyeOnMachE]

1) What mode were you in? The deceleration is more abrupt in unbridled mode.

2) Yes, the brake lights are on whenever the car is doing any type of braking. I checked this driving in the dark this morning. Letting off the pedal to the point of feeling the dynamic braking illuminates the brake lights.

Thanks.
1. Yep, I know the driving mode affects the amount of regen (though I wish it was a separate setting), I just don't recall which driving mode I was in at the time as I changed it quite a few times during the test drive.

2. Seems like that could be really annoying for the vehicle behind me. In other words, with 1PD off, what would be slight adjustments to my accelerator pedal, say, to adjust my speed, e.g. coast, or slightly reduce my speed due to the car in front of me, would normally not cause the brake lights to illuminate (no brake), will now cause my brake lights to go on way more frequently since I'm in 1PD or in a mode with regen on. That probably would drive the car behind me nuts, but maybe that's a good thing as it might discourage tailgaters. :-/

Brake lights go on when you pull back enough to start actively slowing down. I'm sure it's tied to a a de-acceleration rate, but haven't figured out what yet.

Thanks. This makes the most sense to me, but like you mention, what would be that rate. Hopefully not too sensitive where it allows a little bit of room to coast or deaccelerate some without trigger the brake lights.

When you come to a full stop they stay on whether your foot is resting on the accelerator pedal or not. Something I like.

Same here, that is, I'd also like. This would be my expectation as well.

 

[Maquis]

2. Seems like that could be really annoying for the vehicle behind me. In other words, with 1PD off, what would be slight adjustments to my accelerator pedal, say, to adjust my speed, e.g. coast, or slightly reduce my speed due to the car in front of me, would normally not cause the brake lights to illuminate (no brake), will now cause my brake lights to go on way more frequently since I'm in 1PD or in a mode with regen on. That probably would drive the car behind me nuts, but maybe that's a good thing as it might discourage tailgaters. :-/

I haven't tested this specifically, but I would presume the design is to only illuminate the brake lights when the car is being decelerated - equivalent to applying the brake in conventional mode.

 

[EyeOnMachE]

I haven't tested this specifically, but I would presume the design is to only illuminate the brake lights when the car is being decelerated - equivalent to applying the brake in conventional mode.

Yes, I would agree in general but define "being decelerated." Pressing the brake aside, the uncertainty comes in at what point in the deceleration do the brake lights illuminate. I can only presume there is something in the software to determine how much deceleration has occurred and over what period of time before the brake lights illuminate. Otherwise, if it's simply just "when the car is decelerating" then the slightest lift off the accelerator pedal, which is a deceleration, will cause the brake lights to illuminate which of course would be unnecessary and even unsafe for that fine adjustment of speed by the driver.

Have you ever been behind a driver that is brake happy? Not only does it drive me crazy, it's not safe to be behind them as you never know if they are just slightly adjusting their speed or attempting to slow down for a turn or coming to a complete stop.

 

[Nav]

Yeah, pulling into the garage is when I turn Auto Hold off in my current car. But it's a physical button, so it's easy to turn off when needed.

100% agree with your posts here and others that prefer creep! Same with my current Hyundai, I love having the physical button next to the shifter and e-brake button for Auto Brake Hold. Mostly keep it off, but turn on when I'm at a known loooonng red light, or a series of them in a row.
This was one of the first (and only complaint) things that stood out to me during test drive. Only saw option to turn it off in the menu. I figure toggling the 1PD mode on and off could be a slightly quicker way to mimic a brake hold on/off button. Maybe just 1 or 2 less taps on the screen? Or I just gotta get better at lightly finessing the accelerator when brake hold is on.

 

[Maquis]

Yes, I would agree in general but define "being decelerated." Pressing the brake aside, the uncertainty comes in at what point in the deceleration do the brake lights illuminate. I can only presume there is something in the software to determine how much deceleration has occurred and over what period of time before the brake lights illuminate. Otherwise, if it's simply just "when the car is decelerating" then the slightest lift off the accelerator pedal, which is a deceleration, will cause the brake lights to illuminate which of course would be unnecessary and even unsafe for that fine adjustment of speed by the driver.

Have you ever been behind a driver that is brake happy? Not only does it drive me crazy, it's not safe to be behind them as you never know if they are just slightly adjusting their speed or attempting to slow down for a turn or coming to a complete stop.

Let me clarify - what I intended to say was "when the car is being decelerated by regen or mechanical brakes", which would not include normal slowing as a result of normal coasting.

In other words, the brake light algorithm should mimic what happens when brakes are applied in a car with an ICE.

 

[Awmustang]

The same question came up with Adaptive cruise. "If I'm not pushing the brake pedal, are the brake lights going on?" Considering Ford's history with rear end collisions (google Pinto explosions if you don't know what I'm referring to) I can't imagine there is any way at all that the brake lights won't be coming on when appropriate.

 

[LF-X]

anyone found a way to disable creep mode? Auto hold is no real solution.

 

[dbsb3233]

anyone found a way to disable creep mode? Auto hold is no real solution.

One pedal driving or Autohold are the alternatives to the car creeping like ICE. It's precisely why I don't like 1PD or Autohold, because I love creep so I can control subtle movement in the garage and parking spaces with the brake pedal. I hate *not* having creep.

 

[LF-X]

So an option would be nice to fit users need. How do we get feature request to Ford?

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