Current max miles in the GOM

[DarkHorseRunning]

I just finished a long trip yesterday. My GOM at 100% is very temperature-dependent. On a warm day, with the battery preconditioned, at showed 261 miles at 100% SOC when I departed on my way home. On a relatively cold day (I live down south, 40 degrees is cold for here), without preconditioning, the GOM shows about 240 miles.

Of course, mileage varies wildly depending on driving conditions. Tooling around town, averaging 45mph, I pull about 3.5 miles/kWh. On the Interstate, cruising at 78mph, I pull about 2.2 miles/kWh. The GOM has no idea how you're going to drive today -- best it can do is make an educated guess based on how you typically drive. No different from "miles until empty" on an ICE vehicle.

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[CameraCarl]

Every time I fill up my ICE I get a different range number. Some days it is 325 miles; sometimes it is 415; sometimes 385, etc. etc. It all varies based on when and where and how I have been driving and what the temperature is before I fill up, but you know, I never obsessed about it....

 

[RickMachE]

Every time I fill up my ICE I get a different range number. Some days it is 325 miles; sometimes it is 415; sometimes 385, etc. etc. It all varies based on when and where and how I have been driving and what the temperature is before I fill up, but you know, I never obsessed about it....

LIAR! This GOM issue never happened with gas vehicles. Stop making up shit and posting it!

 

[Teslaeata]

I just finished a long trip yesterday. My GOM at 100% is very temperature-dependent. On a warm day, with the battery preconditioned, at showed 261 miles at 100% SOC when I departed on my way home. On a relatively cold day (I live down south, 40 degrees is cold for here), without preconditioning, the GOM shows about 240 miles.

Of course, mileage varies wildly depending on driving conditions. Tooling around town, averaging 45mph, I pull about 3.5 miles/kWh. On the Interstate, cruising at 78mph, I pull about 2.2 miles/kWh. The GOM has no idea how you're going to drive today -- best it can do is make an educated guess based on how you typically drive. No different from "miles until empty" on an ICE vehicle.

Yep!

That’s about the size of it

Everybody’s experience, I expect

 

[Teslaeata]

LIAR! This GOM issue never happened with gas vehicles. Stop making up shit and posting it!

EV GOM lies?

ICE miles range lies?

Manufacturers lie about EV range and ICE mpg?

No shit, Sherlock!

Tell me something I don’t already know

 

[Teslaeata]

Very good!

That made me chuckle

 

[sglewiswl]

I think you’re crazy giving us the play by play of the GOM. You are talking like someone who’s only had the car three weeks. Just put a piece of tape over the GOM, look at the % of battery, look at the weather and where you plan to go, and say to yourself, “It’s cold today, mileage will be lower, or hey its sunny and 70 drive away”.

Except the % battery on the dash isn't the true percent of the battery. If you don't use Car Scanner you have no idea what the battery % is. Why shouldn't I be able to see a screen that shows total capacity of the battery in kWh and the current charge of the battery in kWh and the % left with a guess at the current miles using the real-time miles per kWh? We kinda sorta have this, and if I buy a bluetooth plug and an app I can see this.

 

[sglewiswl]

I think you lack the understanding of the capability of the range projection. If you want the most accurate projection, put a destination into the navigation, and start driving. It immediately adjusts, pulling in all the current factors.

I parked last night at 60 degrees. It was 40 degrees this morning. Car is in a garage that is 50 degrees from yesterday's heat. The car has no idea, sitting there, that's it 40 outside, nor does it know that today's forecast is 60. Nor is the battery 50 degrees, since the car was driven yesterday it maybe was 70 on shutdown, and has cooled to 60.

Now, I start driving with a destination. The temp probes get current air passed over them, and the car gets that data. It knows where I am going, the roads, and current conditions, and adjusts.

I don't actually. And the car does know how cold it is, it measures both the temp of the ambient air and the battery. What it doesn't know is the actual affect on the rage so it guesses.
I don't use destinations because my car is a commuter. I'm not going to punch in the destination when I go to Costco, or Kroger's, or ACE, or Home Depot. I'm not arguing it doesn't do a good job of guessing, I'm stating the factory should give us an accurate gauge of battery level so the GOM doesn't look like it's guessing all the time which it does.

 

[Steady Eddie]

What's the Max miles any of you are seeing at 100% charge on the GOM. I'm curious mostly, and yes I know it highly variable based on temp.
My 2021 Select standard battery AWD with 94.1 % SoH just gave me 215 miles. Most I have seen since I purchased it used in October.

I have gotten 320 on the GOM a couple of times. For my ‘22 ER Premium but (off-topic) I’ve put together a spreadsheet tracking tracking my miles driven and the kWh the ford app says I’ve charged. I don’t think it’s particularly accurate, but over the past 550 miles I’ve averaged 3.2 miles/kWh. That works out to 288 miles on a full charge.

However, I don’t think Ford includes charging losses in the App’s kWh number. I guess losses are 10% so in terms of what I’m paying for electricity, I’m getting less than 3 miles per PG&E kWh.

 

[Snakebitten]

Best I've seen on the 2023.5 GTPE was 270 I think? Might have been 280?

Never really mattered since I charge at home and it was rarely the vehicle I would choose for the day if I knew I was going to be racking up the miles.

However, I very recently acquired:

The dealership charged it to 85% for me and the GOM was reporting 364 miles to empty. Which lines up with the 430 miles claimed?

That's a lot of energy storage that I will rarely if ever tap the bottom half of. It would actually be a better value equation, for me personally anyway, if the battery was 1/2 the size and the price reflected it. But the GOM is definitely a conversation piece for the ICE family members that ask me "so what's the range on that thing?"

 

[Tomm]

Max I have seen on my ER battery was 318. Entertaining.

 

[RickMachE]

I have gotten 320 on the GOM a couple of times. For my ‘22 ER Premium but (off-topic) I’ve put together a spreadsheet tracking tracking my miles driven and the kWh the ford app says I’ve charged. I don’t think it’s particularly accurate, but over the past 550 miles I’ve averaged 3.2 miles/kWh. That works out to 288 miles on a full charge.

However, I don’t think Ford includes charging losses in the App’s kWh number. I guess losses are 10% so in terms of what I’m paying for electricity, I’m getting less than 3 miles per PG&E kWh.

The car reports efficiency based on the electricity it receives. Your electric company charges you for the gross, before loss.

 

[Teslaeata]

GOM before & after driving history wiped pictured along with various Car Scanner dashboard screens showing HVB SoH @ 92.5%, GOM 100% charge, actual 96% charge and other stuff…….

 

[devmach-e]

This is where the GOM is bullshit. Your battery has a max charge based on the original size of the battery and the current SoH, it needs to dream up a miles per kWh based on past driving, but wait it was 30 yd today its 60. Lately as the temps rise, every time i drive the car the % goes down but the miles go up. I am curious if there is a better way. I believe some of us should be able to enable an expert mode and see more real-time metrics.

In the Bolt EV/EUV, one of the instrument cluster display modes has a high-medium-low range figure displayed, and a trend indicator. The trend indicator shows if you are driving more efficiently and thus will get closer to the high figure, and if you are stomping on the accelerator pedal, that trend indicator drops to the low figure. I usually just cared about the medium range figure and only vaguely cared about the trend line.

How Ford comes up with the range figure is likely very proprietary and they're not going to tell us everything. Nor are they likely to give us a low-medium-high range indicator like Chevy did in the Bolt.

 

[devmach-e]

Except the % battery on the dash isn't the true percent of the battery. If you don't use Car Scanner you have no idea what the battery % is. Why shouldn't I be able to see a screen that shows total capacity of the battery in kWh and the current charge of the battery in kWh and the % left with a guess at the current miles using the real-time miles per kWh? We kinda sorta have this, and if I buy a bluetooth plug and an app I can see this.

Because Ford doesn't want to overwhelm typical car owners with too much information. Or open themselves up to complaints from owners like "I paid for a battery that is 99 kWh in total size, but you only let me use 88 kWh of that. I demand to have full use of the battery I paid for!".

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