Electrify America needs to get their game going

[Mirak]

My complaint was the fact that months have gone by and the same chargers at Indio, El Centro and Dateland have charging issues. I am perfectly aware that California probably has the most charging stations in the country.

I get it. Everybody is entitled to be upset. I was just pointing out how much worse you could have it.

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[generaltso]

This thread has been pretty funny to watch. Anyone else notice the first post got edited, but since it was quoted it still lives on? lol...

Yeah, now it makes even less sense.

 

[jgillmer]

This thread has been pretty funny to watch. Anyone else notice the first post got edited, but since it was quoted it still lives on? lol...

Yup - pretty wild.

For what it's worth, here's my general experience in the DMV area (DC, Maryland, Virginia) with my '21 MME GT:

EA Stations: Generally work and charging speeds on the 150kWh stations is between 86-123 kWh. I have noticed the last 6 months that the stations are frequently busy. They charge by kW delivered (my preference).

EVGo - Quickly growing in the area. For MMEs and other EVs with sub-800v builds, they tend to be slow - even the 200 kWh rated stations. It is largely because EVGo goes relatively cheap on their cables - usually 198 AMP capability. The 200 kWh stations will then max out for MMEs around 66-73kWh rate. The 50 kWh stations are garbage - often maxing around 34 kWh. My other issue with EVGo is that they charge by the minute - so these slower charge rates aren't just a longer wait, but a higher relative cost.

ChargePoint: Mostly L2 stations around here. There is a free 24kWh DCFC unicorn at the Mercedes dealership in Alexandria. Only other one I've seen is broken just outside of DC.

Volta: Mostly L2 here as well (and generally work well). There is one DCFC at the Amazon Fresh in Lorton that is free for the first 30 min and then .35 per minute thereafter, but it has had an internet connection issue sidelining it for the last couple weeks. The L2s work really well in the area.

EV Institute: Terrible DCFC and expensive. They can be found in PG County and at one of the Maryland Welcome centers on I95. Slow, expensive, includes $2.50 session fee, and you a have a 50/50 chance.of it working at all. Credit card only (though RFID reader shows). Website provides no guidance.

Shell Re-charge: Had my first experience with these at BWI cell lot and near Reagan. Took some time to find and get the app to work properly (defaults to the Shell gas app functionality), but ok - similar speed and cost as EVGo.

Dealerships: Around here, slim pickings. The Springfield dealer has a single L2 charger - lucky for them, they are next to Springfield Towncenter Mall that has 10 Volta L2s (including at Barnes and Noble and Target), 6 ChargePoints (4 of 6 broken and Mall general manager had precisely 0 interest in having fixed), and an EA bank of 4 DCFC at 150 kWh capability.

 

[timbop]

This thread has been pretty funny to watch. Anyone else notice the first post got edited, but since it was quoted it still lives on? lol...

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[SoCalPony]

I was going to LOL about the comment that EV sales are declining, but @SpaceEVDriver posted the chart on page 3 showing the exact opposite, EV sales are skyrocketing.

All the chatter about various DCFC stations that don't work is nothing more than anecdotal evidence, that no conclusion can be drawn from. Until there is a comprehensive deployed system in place to measure and report DCFC reliability, you just have a bunch of individual users reporting their experiences. Valuable info, but not comprehensive.

Presumably the new Federal money flowing for DCFC construction includes a real time monitoring component that will feed data to 3rd party apps, which can then be included in things like Google Maps or whatever. This could make the CCS DCFC world more like Tesla, which I believe shows how many DCFCs at a given location are inoperable.

SCPony

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I was going to LOL about the comment that EV sales are declining, but @SpaceEVDriver posted the chart on page 3 showing the exact opposite, EV sales are skyrocketing.

All the chatter about various DCFC stations that don't work is nothing more than anecdotal evidence, that no conclusion can be drawn from. Until there is a comprehensive deployed system in place to measure and report DCFC reliability, you just have a bunch of individual users reporting their experiences. Valuable info, but not comprehensive.

Presumably the new Federal money flowing for DCFC construction includes a real time monitoring component that will feed data to 3rd party apps, which can then be included in things like Google Maps or whatever. This could make the CCS DCFC world more like Tesla, which I believe shows how many DCFCs at a given location are inoperable.

SCPony

The main standards body for automotive technology is working on improving charger communications so these kinds of data can be gathered.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...ty-and-other-ev-standards-and-training.28087/

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