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The trip was an adventure because it was pretty much a worst-case scenario.

Temperatures were below freezing for nearly the entire journey.

Road conditions were awful. I had to deal with blizzards that reduced my visibility to near-zero, the snow blocked the sensors on my car (RIP adaptive cruise control), deep slush and black ice ruined my traction, and I had to alter routes on the fly due to road closures.

Charging was also a huge problem. My destination near Hot Springs in South Dakota is centered in a fast-charge dead-zone with no fast chargers for about 200 miles in any direction. Even finding suitable L2 charging was nearly impossible, with the nearest city being over 50 miles away.

With that preamble, here's my experience taking a road trip through a blizzard to rural South Dakota.

ROUTING
I routed the initial trip from Salt Lake City to my brother's cabin near Hot Springs, South Dakota on A Better Route Planner using their free trial period of Premium service. Unfortunately, ABRP doesn't do a great job factoring in road closures or traffic conditions, and there's no way to manually tell the app not to use a specific road, so I had to export my plan to Google Maps, which has better real-time traffic data.

Getting it all to work with Android Auto was a bit of a chore, as I couldn't get ABRP to export its route to Google Maps through Android Auto. I had to disconnect my phone from Android Auto, open up the ABRP app on my phone, export the route to Google Maps, start navigation on my phone, then reconnect my phone to Android Auto. Google Maps often lost my route while I was charging - most likely, I inadvertently cancelled navigation while messing with my phone during charges - so this was a process I had to go through several times.

On an ICE vehicle, the trip each way should be about 9 to 9.5 hours each way, mostly traveling along I-80. However, I-80 has few fast chargers along its path (and wound up being closed, anyway), so I had to make a large detour along I-70 which added almost 150 miles to my trip. Including charging time, it would take me an estimated 15 hours each way, which didn't include a full overnight charge at a hotel.

The stop at a hotel was mandatory, as the only way to make the final leg of the trip to Hot Springs was to charge for at least 10 hours on a L2 charger in or near Scottsbluff, NE. Once at my destination, I would also have to charge at least 60% of my battery using a 240v electric outlet, which would take about 2 days.

ON THE ROAD
The start of the trip wasn't bad at all. BlueCruise's hands-free driving on interstates was a blessing for large stretches of the drive. I did find that it sometimes got confused, thinking I wasn't watching the road when I was scanning the horizon for wildlife (I literally drove through three herds of deer, so that was a huge concern of mine). BlueCruise also wasn't available for many of the winding mountain stretches, as the turns were too sharp for the system to handle. Nevertheless, being able to occasionally rest my arms during the trip made the long drive much less unpleasant.

I-80 closed due to the blizzard, and ABRP insisted on putting me on at least some portion of it regardless of what alternate route I chose. Google Maps could navigate around it, but couldn't replace the destination charger with another one within range, so I had to use the Mach-E's built-in navigation to find a charger during one stretch, then go back to Google Maps to get back on my journey to the next charging station that I'd plotted through ABRP. The experience left me really wishing for better EV routing software.

The Mach-E mostly handled the poor road conditions wonderfully. The heavy battery and AWD meant that even on its stock all-season tires, I had much better handling than most of the other vehicles on the road. In the worst conditions, I still had to slow down to drive safely, but I still shaved off whole hours of my trip by being better able to handle the snow, ice, and slush. During my last stretch on I-15, much of traffic was driving single-file on the right side of the interstate at a measly 25 mph or so, but I was able to drive safely at roughly twice the speed in the left lanes, which I estimate saved me at least an hour just that night.

What the Mach-E did struggle with was its various sensors getting impacted by snow, mud, and ice. Features like lane keep, adaptive cruise control, and collision avoidance depend on these sensors to operate, so I spent the worst parts of the trip without those features. The worst of it was the loss of adaptive cruise control, as there's apparently no defaulting to ordinary cruise control when the sensors are obstructed. Before the sensors failed, though, lane keep was very useful in low-visibility situations, especially when it helped me stay in my lane when the windshield was getting blasted with slush from cars in the opposing lane.

CHARGING
I used either ChargePoint or Electrify America stations for the entire journey (with the exception of the home charge at my brother's cabin).

ChargePoint was much cheaper than EA; most charged only $.20/kw (or, in other words, roughly half the price per mile as driving an average ICE), and one station was free, although some did have extravagant parking fees that could double the price. EA, on the other hand, usually charges about $.43/kw without a membership.

However, between the additional parking fees and the much longer route I had to take, I wound up spending a lot more than if I'd driven an ICE, which was extremely disappointing. I had complimentary charging from EA through FordPass, so I got those miles for free, and received about 60% of a battery for free at my brother's cabin, but if I'd had to pay full price, it would have cost me about $165 for fuel round-trip. By way of comparison, gasbuddy.com's calculator estimates I could have taken the same trip in an ICE for about $118.

That's not a totally fair comparison, as you normally wouldn't use an EA charger without a membership (which brings the price per kw down to $.31), most ICE drivers don't use a route planner to save on gas money, and I took a longer route under unfavorable conditions. Still, it's a bad mark on EVs to know that your extra-expensive car will not only be less convenient and take longer on road trips, but might even cost you as much in fuel (or more).

On the bright side, I didn't experience a single faulty charger, and never had any meaningful issues getting a charge. On a couple of ChargePoint chargers, it was unclear whether it wanted me to plug my vehicle in before or after starting a session, but it never took me more than one or two extra tries to get things working.

CONCLUSION
Taking a road trip through a blizzard is never a fun experience, and it's unfair to the Mach-E to make any harsh judgments based on this worst-case scenario. Still, I have to admit that the experience has really dampened my interest in taking the Mach-E on long road trips.

Despite the wonderful handling and BlueCruise, there just isn't enough infrastructure in many parts of the country, and when it's there, it costs far too much to make it worth the inconvenience of having to stop twice as often, and for ten times as long each stop.

If you're paying half as much per mile, you can sort of justify it, but with per-minute and parking fees added, and currently no way to automate a route based on charging costs, you have to base your decision to road trip on an EV solely on ride quality (which is somewhat contradicted by the longer trip times) and environmental concerns (in which case, why are you taking road trips in the first place? There aren't many reasons why you'd really need to travel across the country in person).

Sadly, route planning is still a necessity for EVs in a way that just isn't for ICE vehicles. This issue is made worse by the fact that available route planners are each pretty good at one thing, but none are effective at all the things you really need a route planner to do.

Hopefully, in time, we'll see charging networks filled out, and competition and innovation will drive down costs, and you'll need route planners less often and they'll be better than they are now. Until then, though, I think it's going to be difficult to convince the average American that it's really worth it to switch over to an EV as a primary vehicle.
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Thanks for this great write up. I am planning a road trip to and from NJ to Burlington, VT. I have an extended range, but I've got RWD and stock tires and just learned when I'm driving home Sat there is a snow storm (only a couple of inches but still). I'm not worried about charging, but am a little concerned about the potential for slipping and sliding.
 

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Thanks for this great write up. I am planning a road trip to and from NJ to Burlington, VT. I have an extended range, but I've got RWD and stock tires and just learned when I'm driving home Sat there is a snow storm (only a couple of inches but still). I'm not worried about charging, but am a little concerned about the potential for slipping and sliding.
I‘ll wave to you as you pass through Burlington.
 


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You had me at 30 hours round trip for the EV vs. 18 hours for the ICEV. Life is just too short.
On the other hand, if you plan fast charging around meals/activities and L2 charge overnight, you'll hardly notice delays. This works better with ~500 mile days vs ~1000 mile days if just powering through though. I really enjoyed walking around more small towns along the way and eating real meals, but we weren't driving through a blizzard.
 

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What’s the benefit of ABRP? I don’t see anything I’m impressed with. Did you try the Plugshare App? I also think it’s fair to note you tried to drive to easily the worst place in America to try to drive an EV right now. I‘ve got an EA 150+ charger every 150 miles coast to coast and border to border for the routes I take. I do appreciate the write up though.

I don’t think it’s fair to complain about the sensors being blocked. They get blocked in heavy snow on all vehicles. And if you said they didn’t and were driving with the aids I’d call you a moron.

Thanks for the time and the trip though. If pioneers like you don’t make those journeys they won’t build more chargers anytime soon.
 

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What’s the benefit of ABRP? I don’t see anything I’m impressed with.
ABRP is indispensable for complex trips, and is a good second opinion for simple ones. I've seen Ford navigation offer some bizarre charging options like adding a 25-50kW charger when a 150kW is just down the road. In fairness, I've seen some wacky turn-by-turn suggestions from ABRP on a micro scale, and Ford seems to do pretty well there. I have an example below showing the strengths of ABRP on a trip with multiple intermediate stops and customizations:

Ford Mustang Mach-E FIRST ROAD TRIP! 1,500 Miles Through A Rocky Mountain Blizzard Screenshot_20211216-085145~2

This is a ~500 mile day from our road trip in August involving a detour to a remote rock climbing destination and accounting for stopping an hour at a museum with free DCFC. We had a campsite with electrical hookups that night, but also wanted to make sure we had sufficient remaining SoC to get to the next fast charger just in case.

While we used Ford's navigation to guide us through each leg in the vehicle, we could not have planned with this kind of precision for opportunistic charging, intermediate destinations and target SoC without ABRP (in conjunction with PlugShare, to be transparent). I also like ABRP's customizable consumption figures as a counterpoint to the GOM, which always seems to read well below my real-world range.

As an aside, I put this route (just A to B) into the FordPass trip planner and the app crashed ?.
 

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ABRP is indispensable for complex trips, and is a good second opinion for simple ones. I've seen Ford navigation offer some bizarre charging options like adding a 25-50kW charger when a 150kW is just down the road. In fairness, I've seen some wacky turn-by-turn suggestions from ABRP on a micro scale, and Ford seems to do pretty well there. I have an example below showing the strengths of ABRP on a trip with multiple intermediate stops and customizations:

Ford Mustang Mach-E FIRST ROAD TRIP! 1,500 Miles Through A Rocky Mountain Blizzard Screenshot_20211216-085145~2

This is a ~500 mile day from our road trip in August involving a detour to a remote rock climbing destination and accounting for stopping an hour at a museum with free DCFC. We had a campsite with electrical hookups that night, but also wanted to make sure we had sufficient remaining SoC to get to the next fast charger just in case.

While we used Ford's navigation to guide us through each leg in the vehicle, we could not have planned with this kind of precision for opportunistic charging, intermediate destinations and target SoC without ABRP (in conjunction with PlugShare, to be transparent). I also like ABRP's customizable consumption figures as a counterpoint to the GOM, which always seems to read well below my real-world range.

As an aside, I put this route (just A to B) into the FordPass trip planner and the app crashed ?.
Can you share your ABRP Mach-E settings?
 

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The trip was an adventure because it was pretty much a worst-case scenario.

Temperatures were below freezing for nearly the entire journey.

Road conditions were awful. I had to deal with blizzards that reduced my visibility to near-zero, the snow blocked the sensors on my car (RIP adaptive cruise control), deep slush and black ice ruined my traction, and I had to alter routes on the fly due to road closures.

Charging was also a huge problem. My destination near Hot Springs in South Dakota is centered in a fast-charge dead-zone with no fast chargers for about 200 miles in any direction. Even finding suitable L2 charging was nearly impossible, with the nearest city being over 50 miles away.

With that preamble, here's my experience taking a road trip through a blizzard to rural South Dakota.

ROUTING
I routed the initial trip from Salt Lake City to my brother's cabin near Hot Springs, South Dakota on A Better Route Planner using their free trial period of Premium service. Unfortunately, ABRP doesn't do a great job factoring in road closures or traffic conditions, and there's no way to manually tell the app not to use a specific road, so I had to export my plan to Google Maps, which has better real-time traffic data.

Getting it all to work with Android Auto was a bit of a chore, as I couldn't get ABRP to export its route to Google Maps through Android Auto. I had to disconnect my phone from Android Auto, open up the ABRP app on my phone, export the route to Google Maps, start navigation on my phone, then reconnect my phone to Android Auto. Google Maps often lost my route while I was charging - most likely, I inadvertently cancelled navigation while messing with my phone during charges - so this was a process I had to go through several times.

On an ICE vehicle, the trip each way should be about 9 to 9.5 hours each way, mostly traveling along I-80. However, I-80 has few fast chargers along its path (and wound up being closed, anyway), so I had to make a large detour along I-70 which added almost 150 miles to my trip. Including charging time, it would take me an estimated 15 hours each way, which didn't include a full overnight charge at a hotel.

The stop at a hotel was mandatory, as the only way to make the final leg of the trip to Hot Springs was to charge for at least 10 hours on a L2 charger in or near Scottsbluff, NE. Once at my destination, I would also have to charge at least 60% of my battery using a 240v electric outlet, which would take about 2 days.

ON THE ROAD
The start of the trip wasn't bad at all. BlueCruise's hands-free driving on interstates was a blessing for large stretches of the drive. I did find that it sometimes got confused, thinking I wasn't watching the road when I was scanning the horizon for wildlife (I literally drove through three herds of deer, so that was a huge concern of mine). BlueCruise also wasn't available for many of the winding mountain stretches, as the turns were too sharp for the system to handle. Nevertheless, being able to occasionally rest my arms during the trip made the long drive much less unpleasant.

I-80 closed due to the blizzard, and ABRP insisted on putting me on at least some portion of it regardless of what alternate route I chose. Google Maps could navigate around it, but couldn't replace the destination charger with another one within range, so I had to use the Mach-E's built-in navigation to find a charger during one stretch, then go back to Google Maps to get back on my journey to the next charging station that I'd plotted through ABRP. The experience left me really wishing for better EV routing software.

The Mach-E mostly handled the poor road conditions wonderfully. The heavy battery and AWD meant that even on its stock all-season tires, I had much better handling than most of the other vehicles on the road. In the worst conditions, I still had to slow down to drive safely, but I still shaved off whole hours of my trip by being better able to handle the snow, ice, and slush. During my last stretch on I-15, much of traffic was driving single-file on the right side of the interstate at a measly 25 mph or so, but I was able to drive safely at roughly twice the speed in the left lanes, which I estimate saved me at least an hour just that night.

What the Mach-E did struggle with was its various sensors getting impacted by snow, mud, and ice. Features like lane keep, adaptive cruise control, and collision avoidance depend on these sensors to operate, so I spent the worst parts of the trip without those features. The worst of it was the loss of adaptive cruise control, as there's apparently no defaulting to ordinary cruise control when the sensors are obstructed. Before the sensors failed, though, lane keep was very useful in low-visibility situations, especially when it helped me stay in my lane when the windshield was getting blasted with slush from cars in the opposing lane.

CHARGING
I used either ChargePoint or Electrify America stations for the entire journey (with the exception of the home charge at my brother's cabin).

ChargePoint was much cheaper than EA; most charged only $.20/kw (or, in other words, roughly half the price per mile as driving an average ICE), and one station was free, although some did have extravagant parking fees that could double the price. EA, on the other hand, usually charges about $.43/kw without a membership.

However, between the additional parking fees and the much longer route I had to take, I wound up spending a lot more than if I'd driven an ICE, which was extremely disappointing. I had complimentary charging from EA through FordPass, so I got those miles for free, and received about 60% of a battery for free at my brother's cabin, but if I'd had to pay full price, it would have cost me about $165 for fuel round-trip. By way of comparison, gasbuddy.com's calculator estimates I could have taken the same trip in an ICE for about $118.

That's not a totally fair comparison, as you normally wouldn't use an EA charger without a membership (which brings the price per kw down to $.31), most ICE drivers don't use a route planner to save on gas money, and I took a longer route under unfavorable conditions. Still, it's a bad mark on EVs to know that your extra-expensive car will not only be less convenient and take longer on road trips, but might even cost you as much in fuel (or more).

On the bright side, I didn't experience a single faulty charger, and never had any meaningful issues getting a charge. On a couple of ChargePoint chargers, it was unclear whether it wanted me to plug my vehicle in before or after starting a session, but it never took me more than one or two extra tries to get things working.

CONCLUSION
Taking a road trip through a blizzard is never a fun experience, and it's unfair to the Mach-E to make any harsh judgments based on this worst-case scenario. Still, I have to admit that the experience has really dampened my interest in taking the Mach-E on long road trips.

Despite the wonderful handling and BlueCruise, there just isn't enough infrastructure in many parts of the country, and when it's there, it costs far too much to make it worth the inconvenience of having to stop twice as often, and for ten times as long each stop.

If you're paying half as much per mile, you can sort of justify it, but with per-minute and parking fees added, and currently no way to automate a route based on charging costs, you have to base your decision to road trip on an EV solely on ride quality (which is somewhat contradicted by the longer trip times) and environmental concerns (in which case, why are you taking road trips in the first place? There aren't many reasons why you'd really need to travel across the country in person).

Sadly, route planning is still a necessity for EVs in a way that just isn't for ICE vehicles. This issue is made worse by the fact that available route planners are each pretty good at one thing, but none are effective at all the things you really need a route planner to do.

Hopefully, in time, we'll see charging networks filled out, and competition and innovation will drive down costs, and you'll need route planners less often and they'll be better than they are now. Until then, though, I think it's going to be difficult to convince the average American that it's really worth it to switch over to an EV as a primary vehicle.
Sounds like the Mach-E did mostly great and the infrastructure is the problem. Sometimes I'd just rather drive an EV over cost or environmental concerns, cause they are fun to drive.
 

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Can you share your ABRP Mach-E settings?
Most settings depend on the trip, but the default reference consumption is 303 Wh/mi (3.3mi/kWh). In summer, I see closer to 285 and 325 in winter. I haven't played around too much with changing weather (road condition) settings vs just adjusting reference consumption, nor have I tried the live updates that come with a pro subscription. As I hinted at above, my SoC settings are going to depend on my starting and destination points, but I don't go below 10%, and often go high enough to let me drive to the next charger if needed.

Hope that answers your question, let me know if I missed anything specific.
 

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Most settings depend on the trip, but the default reference consumption is 303 Wh/mi (3.3mi/kWh). In summer, I see closer to 285 and 325 in winter. I haven't played around too much with changing weather (road condition) settings vs just adjusting reference consumption, nor have I tried the live updates that come with a pro subscription. As I hinted at above, my SoC settings are going to depend on my starting and destination points, but I don't go below 10%, and often go high enough to let me drive to the next charger if needed.

Hope that answers your question, let me know if I missed anything specific.
I'm sometimes confused on charger settings when at DCFC stations in ABRP, it defaults to 350kw charging for the Mach-E, is that something you change?
 

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I'm sometimes confused on charger settings when at DCFC stations in ABRP, it defaults to 350kw charging for the Mach-E, is that something you change?
Ignore it. The time it says you will take to charge isn't accurate. And, how much you charge isn't logical all the time. You learn that unless there is an economical reason (i.e. you're in a per kWh state and then next charger is in a per minute state which is therefore much cheaper) to always "fill up" to 80% (90%after update), because you never know whether the next charging location will work reliably, etc. Whether you spend 23 minutes at one and 32 minutes at the next, it is still 55 minutes. And there is zero difference in using a 350kW charger and a 150kW charger in my experience.

Also, if you always fill up, and are willing to push to say 10% left, you may be able to have one less stop or less at the last stop before your destination.
 

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I'm sometimes confused on charger settings when at DCFC stations in ABRP, it defaults to 350kw charging for the Mach-E, is that something you change?
The 350kW there is the max the charger can deliver, but ABRP (assuming you've added a MME as your vehicle on the app) will apply an estimated charging curve to the time estimates, so those should be fairly accurate. I don't believe this estimated curve represents the recent updates that smooth out and remove the 80% cliff though. You can manually override the value in that field in case, say, it's a shared charger that will only deliver a max of half the stated capacity when another car is plugged in.

As @RickMachE says, there isn't much of a difference between 350kW and 150kW chargers in a Mach-E since peak charging speed is ~150kW anyway. Given the option, go with the 150kW both for etiquette and due to some issues early builds were having with 350kW chargers (since fixed by available software update). From there, it's a matter of personal preference. If you're trying to beat Bjorn Nyland's 1000km challenge time, then maybe going 5-40% is the way to go. Otherwise, I prefer to charge fewer times for longer and just make a meal out of it.
 
 




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