Indoor charger plug temp 166f, dangerous?

[Space_Pony]

So, long story is my old indoor garage charger failed when I had my 2017 focus, the plastic of the wall plug itself split and the charger stopped working. The plug prongs and socket had burn marks in I of course replaced both.

fast forward to the new socket and charger, it can go as high as 240/40amp.

the photo was taken at 32amps after about 1 hour and 45 minute of charge in a 70f garage.

is 168f something to be worried about? Setting it to 40amps will drive the temp even higherI’ve run it at 40a a couple times when I needed as much charge as possible in a short time but never for more than an hour or 2.

I normally have it set at 20amps. The charger plug barely gets warm this way. If I’m going to charge overnight I’m more comfortable this way.

anyway, I realize your all not electricians and that would be the smartest/best advice to seek.

just curious if this is considered normal as far as you know.

If you're interested in safety get a quality hardwired EVSE and skip the receptacle. My hardwired Autel has been set at 48 amps for two years with no problems or excessive heat.

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[JohnFoxeSheets]

What @Mach-Lee and @HuntingPudel said. In the interim, before the electrician arrives are the appointed time, in addition to obtaining and having on hand a Hubbell or Bryant 50A outlet (not 40A), yes, if you need to charge your car, you should charge at 20A. (Note, the fact that the wire going into the breaker box isn't hot doesn't mean you don't have a problem elsewhere. Apparently the wire to the outlet is the correct gauge. That's great, as it's harder to change out the wire than the outlet. But the outlet does need to be changed, pronto. (Or and @Space_Pony says, get a hard-wired EVSE and have the electrician install it instead. Unless you have a strong reason to be able to unplug the EVSE, hard-wiring is the way to go. It is much less likely to result in a problem.)

 

[PilotMark]

As explained to me when I wanted a plug instead of hard wired.
There are 3 types of 40 amp receptacles. All say 40 amps and all look pretty much the same.

Residential designed to be cheap for dryers or ovens as they only draw 40 amps very briefly while they are on. $9 or $10 - do not use!

Commercial designed to be used with heavy shop equipment drawing heavy amperage for longer periods but not really full 32 amps for 10 hours straight. $50

Industrial designed to pull the full 40 amps 24x7 $100 I chose this one so I could charge and sleep at the same time.

 

[Trielectric]

So, long story is my old indoor garage charger failed when I had my 2017 Focus

In 2016 Ford Focus Electrics had a recall on the 120v chargers that came with the car. Ford swapped them out for the same charger with a temperature switch(bimetal) in the Plug head that would trip the charger on a high temperature. Mine still works. I had problems with my 2012 FFE getting the plugmold hot and I changed the 120v plug mold out for a heavy duty socket and never had any more problems with that. I also purchased a heavy duty 240v plug mold and have had no problem with it on my Jag or my Rally. Unfortunately the temperatures in the Jags battery are too high now and it is a buy back.

 

[HuntingPudel]

As explained to me when I wanted a plug instead of hard wired.
There are 3 types of 40 amp receptacles. All say 40 amps and all look pretty much the same.

Residential designed to be cheap for dryers or ovens as they only draw 40 amps very briefly while they are on. $9 or $10 - do not use!

Commercial designed to be used with heavy shop equipment drawing heavy amperage for longer periods but not really full 32 amps for 10 hours straight. $50

Industrial designed to pull the full 40 amps 24x7 $100 I chose this one so I could charge and sleep at the same time.

Small correction to this: There are no common 40A NEMA receptacles. The common receptacle types are rated at 15A, 20A, 30A, 50A, and 60A. The most common home 240V receptacles are 50A (6-50 or 14-50) since L2 EVSEs are commonly 32A or 40A. In the NEMA schema, the number before the hyphen is the Receptacle/Plug family (which indicates voltage/phase compatibility), the number after the hyphen is the maximum ampere load it's designed to handle, and the letter following the second number designates whether it's a Receptacle (R) or a Plug (P). See the chart below. ??

 

[jh2021]

So, long story is my old indoor garage charger failed when I had my 2017 focus, the plastic of the wall plug itself split and the charger stopped working. The plug prongs and socket had burn marks in I of course replaced both.

fast forward to the new socket and charger, it can go as high as 240/40amp.

the photo was taken at 32amps after about 1 hour and 45 minute of charge in a 70f garage.

is 168f something to be worried about? Setting it to 40amps will drive the temp even higherI’ve run it at 40a a couple times when I needed as much charge as possible in a short time but never for more than an hour or 2.

I normally have it set at 20amps. The charger plug barely gets warm this way. If I’m going to charge overnight I’m more comfortable this way.

anyway, I realize your all not electricians and that would be the smartest/best advice to seek.

just curious if this is considered normal as far as you know.

Mine was doing that after a melted outlet. GrizzlE eventually replaced the charger and temps returned to normal range.

 

[MadMatt]

https://a.co/d/5jhvVqN

This look ok? (I’d get a metal wall plate as well)

 

[HuntingPudel]

https://a.co/d/5jhvVqN

This look ok? (I’d get a metal wall plate as well)

That one should be fine. ??

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