Is Lucid Dream Drive Pro Equivalent to BCHF?

[Jimrpa]

I can’t find a clear answer on this - is Lucid Dream Drive Pro the equivalent of BlueCruise Hands-Free? Whenever I see a YouTube video reviewing it, they describe it as “hands-off”, yet the reviewer is touching the steering wheel periodically (perhaps every 30 seconds to 1 minute). I’m wondering if Lucid’s Dream Drive Pro has a mode where it operates like our BlueCruise Hands Free or GM’s Supercruise? I use BCHF all the time and find it a great feature (so, I’m sure Ford will be decontenting it for MY26 or later ).
I haven’t driven a Lucid yet, but I’ve checked them out at the dealership and I’m very impressed. I’m assuming Ford will abandon the pure EV market to focus on various versions of hybrids (PHEV, series HV, etc.) and trying to figure out what my options are going to be. So far, Lucid seems to be the only one that ticks my boxes:
- Very peppy “off the line” acceleration (0-60 at 4 or less)
- Apple CarPlay
- Usable frunk volume (able to hold a standard sized roll-aboard)
- Hands-free driving experience (with either driver initiated or automatic lane changes).
- Small enough to fit in my garage (overall length of 192-ish or less).
- Heated and ventilated (I’d sacrifice ventilated if I was getting a Mustang Mach-E GT, but I’d whine about it a lot ) front seats

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[Snakebitten]

I think they are beautiful sedans.

But.......



His long list of vehicle shortcomings with that Lucid kinda puts our Mach-E complaints in the realm of nitpicking.

In context, Ford has a lot more prowess at building an EV than it gets credit for?

 

[Jimrpa]

I think they are beautiful sedans.

But.......



His long list of vehicle shortcomings with that Lucid kinda puts our Mach-E complaints in the realm of nitpicking.

In context, Ford has a lot more prowess at building an EV than it gets credit for?

I watched that video. I was shocked by some of it. I’ve had some of his issues with my Mustang Mach-E though. For example, a friend of mine has paired his iPhone to my car. It will sometimes connect to his phone when I’m the one driving. The hands-free attention monitor complaint is totally valid. I understand lucid’s decision from an interior design perspective, but I guess all Saudi Arabians are short or something?

 

[Alan]

My review of this Lucid reviewer’s comments, including a summary of every point made in the review.

1) There were too many delivered defects, but that is common on all makes, perhaps worse than average on Lucid, yet this is but one anecdote:
Frunk won’t open
Coolant pumps week
Dash button broke
SW won’t update
Charging door hard to open
Cup holder too tight
Audio blanks out

2) There are many issues that I would expect to be fixed with SW updates:
CarPlay switches phones
Car won’t lock consistently
Driver profile handling bad
Glovebox won’t open by voice, which then gives wrong open instructions
Cross traffic warning at red light
Driver profile switch sometimes has incomplete changes

3) Not sure these are reasonable complaints, so I don’t expect a SW update fix:
Can’t change driver profile while driving
Bluetooth hijack on drive-by

4) These are all issues I have had with my MME. Some may get fixed with SW updates by Ford or Lucid:
PAAK failures
Car won’t open automatically
CarPlay won’t always work
Plug-n-Charge not always recognized
Speed limit recognizer wrong (MME is especially bad with self-illuminated and white on black background speed limit signs)
Wrong driver profile with two drivers in car

5) These are legitimate design errors by Lucid, but none are terrible
Face recognition scanner mounted too low — bizarre complaint requiring not noticing seat is WAY off for reviewer
HomeLink hard to program and has poor range
Inadequate physical controls/overly dependent on touch display
6) These are not worthy of complaining; below the level of nit picking:
Range left or charge level switch
Voice command useless — same issue on all cars today, SW updates should improve over time
Phone battery draining — likely phone setting issue

7) These complaints are a joke:
Reverse mirror programability — Tesla comparison is laughable because 360 view not available on Tesla which makes this irrelevant
Back seat heater activated by LARGE dog whose paw can easily reach touch pad control
Factory color name wrong — Ha ha!

 

[GoldNekNinja]

I can’t find a clear answer on this - is Lucid Dream Drive Pro the equivalent of BlueCruise Hands-Free? Whenever I see a YouTube video reviewing it, they describe it as “hands-off”, yet the reviewer is touching the steering wheel periodically (perhaps every 30 seconds to 1 minute). I’m wondering if Lucid’s Dream Drive Pro has a mode where it operates like our BlueCruise Hands Free or GM’s Supercruise? I use BCHF all the time and find it a great feature (so, I’m sure Ford will be decontenting it for MY26 or later ).
I haven’t driven a Lucid yet, but I’ve checked them out at the dealership and I’m very impressed. I’m assuming Ford will abandon the pure EV market to focus on various versions of hybrids (PHEV, series HV, etc.) and trying to figure out what my options are going to be. So far, Lucid seems to be the only one that ticks my boxes:
- Very peppy “off the line” acceleration (0-60 at 4 or less)
- Apple CarPlay
- Usable frunk volume (able to hold a standard sized roll-aboard)
- Hands-free driving experience (with either driver initiated or automatic lane changes).
- Small enough to fit in my garage (overall length of 192-ish or less).
- Heated and ventilated (I’d sacrifice ventilated if I was getting a Mustang Mach-E GT, but I’d whine about it a lot ) front seats

I will say though the latest software update that came to my mach e keeps failing to install, even after following all the forums advice for keeping the 12v battery at a high charge.

 

[ChrisO]

On the one about the wrong profile being selected when two people are in the car with either PAAK or FOBs that select different profiles. I have always thought that would be impossible to “get right”.

There just isn’t anyway for it to know who is sitting in the driver seat. At best it would be the one that approached the car first, and only if there is enough separation between them.

This is the reason I have never tied my wife’s prof to PAAK or a FOB. She just presses her button when she gets in the car.

On the Lucid itself it seems to me they spent most of its history on the hardware/low level stuff and neglected what the user directly deals with. They stated that 2025 was the year that they would start addressing that.

 

[Jimrpa]

I will say though the latest software update that came to my mach e keeps failing to install, even after following all the forums advice for keeping the 12v battery at a high charge.

Have you tried going for an update drive? That usually works for me.

 

[MABachE131]

I watched that video. I was shocked by some of it. I’ve had some of his issues with my Mustang Mach-E though. For example, a friend of mine has paired his iPhone to my car. It will sometimes connect to his phone when I’m the one driving. The hands-free attention monitor complaint is totally valid. I understand lucid’s decision from an interior design perspective, but I guess all Saudi Arabians are short or something?

He also just recently bought a Lucid Air because he says it's an engineer's dream.

 

[ChrisO]

He also just recently bought a Lucid Air because he says it's an engineer's dream.

‘That seems to be the problem. A engineer’s dream, but not a driver’s dream.

 

[Alan]

‘That seems to be the problem. A engineer’s dream, but not a driver’s dream.

A good friend immigrated to the US and drove taxies in NYC for years, before making it very successfully on his own. Went from taxicabs to Lincolns to Jaguars, etc. Has been driving his first EV, a Lucid Air for a couple years now, and says it is the best driver's car he has ever owned. He has not experienced most of the issues in the video, but has had a few, such as poor range with the HomeLink, and hit or miss with the L3 chargers. He says it has been the most perfect vehicle he has owned.

 

[Sikkun]

I use BCHF all the time and find it a great feature (so, I’m sure Ford will be decontenting it for MY26 or later ).

Can build and price a 2026 with BC right now so…

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

understand lucid’s decision from an interior design perspective, but I guess all Saudi Arabians are short or something

No, it’s actually just poor design. It was put there because it’s convenient. The end.

A engineer’s dream, but not a driver’s dream.

It’s really a very nice car to drive.

 

[GoldNekNinja]

Have you tried going for an update drive? That usually works for me.

Yes I have, it just seems like i need to replace the 12v battery at this point. Though aside from that, the mach-e i think is the best EV to get into when transitioning from gas.

 

[Jimrpa]

No, it’s actually just poor design. It was put there because it’s convenient. The end.

It’s really a very nice car to drive.

I was joking slightly. What I meant about the interior design choice was that they were attempting to discreetly “hide” the attention monitor instead of having some tumor-like lump someplace on the steering wheel or elsewhere in the cabin. They probably could have “pulled an Apple” and placed it at the top of the IP sort of like the Dynamic Island on iPhones

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

I was joking slightly. What I meant about the interior design choice was that they were attempting to discreetly “hide” the attention monitor instead of having some tumor-like lump someplace on the steering wheel or elsewhere in the cabin. They probably could have “pulled an Apple” and placed it at the top of the IP sort of like the Dynamic Island on iPhones

They could have put it where Ford put the eye nanny in the mach-e, but noooooooo, that'd be too easy and make sense and stuff.

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