Is there a future for the Mach-E?

[SonicBlue]

You guys are both in Chicago....I bet if you met up for coffee, you could actually be friends!

I dunno why he’s so angry. Just stating facts. Google it!

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[GreaseMonkey]

You guys are both in Chicago....I bet if you met up for coffee, you could actually be friends!

He’s not in Chicago. He’s a troll. It’s a persona he plays online. I bet he doesn’t even own a Mach-E.

 

[dalola]

He’s not in Chicago. He’s a troll. It’s a persona he plays online. I bet he doesn’t even own a Mach-E.

No way anyone online isn't who they say they are....🥸

 

[SonicBlue]

No way anyone online isn't who they say they are....🥸

I own a grabber blue First Edition. The best one. 71,000 and going strong. Man, correct somebody on a dumb wrestler/boxing analogy and people get their feelings hurt lol.

 

[dalola]

I own a grabber blue First Edition. The best one. 71,000 and going strong. Man, correct somebody on a dumb wrestler/boxing analogy and people get their feelings hurt lol.

I believe in you, Karim.

A boxer, wrestler, MMA fighter, and 14 year old girl with a gun walk into a bar.....

 

[GreaseMonkey]

No way anyone online isn't who they say they are....🥸

No problem. But some of us take the hint and stop commenting when their comments are not welcomed. Or block / ignore. That works too.

 

[phil]

Public opinion changes and the general public currently doesn't like EVs.

Currently? The general public never was receptive to EVs. It's always been a small minority that buy electric -- fewer than one in ten new car purchases. Maybe someday that will change.

 

[dalola]

Currently? The general public never was receptive to EVs. It's always been a small minority that buy electric -- fewer than one in ten new car purchases. Maybe someday that will change.

Of course it will, either by force, or choice. Thank God we are moving back to choice.

 

[phil]

Of course it will, either by force, or choice. Thank God we are moving back to choice.

We'll just see what President AOC has to say about that.

 

[dalola]

We'll just see what President AOC has to say about that.

 

[RickMachE]

I disliked Musk long before he made political statements. Have you read Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson? I found his car designs lacking and unimaginative, his statements of timelines that he continually violated laughable, etc., etc. Has nothing to do with a political bent.

The American Petroleum Institute and others have spent billions against EVs. Fact.

I didn't say anything about a conspiracy to keep gas prices low.

My EV focus has little to do with my political views. I can tell you that I'm not close to "progressive". When we moved, we ensured we didn't move into the boundaries of the college town we live next to because some of their policies / thinking are ridiculous in our view. We went EV because of many reasons, starting with our concern about the environment. Our first hybrid was cheaper than a gas equivalent to buy due to rebates, a no-brainer. Then PHEV also cheaper. Then EV for power and quiet. Finally, dropped gas. Dropped gas engines on things like weedwacker due to ease of starting and maintenance. Still have a gas rider.

As far as politicians being anti-subsidy, you can't possibly say that with a straight face. They're only anti-subsidy-that-they-don't-like. Politicians love subsidies that benefit them and the companies that line their pockets.

 

[ChrisO]

Currently? The general public never was receptive to EVs. It's always been a small minority that buy electric -- fewer than one in ten new car purchases. Maybe someday that will change.

There is the world and then there is the US.

The US invented cell phones, and other technology and were the last to embrace them. "Why would people want a mobile phone/computer when they have them at home and work?"

Eventually, the US will want to be "modern", the real question of course is when, and if the US manufactures will actually play a part in that.

Speaking of cell phones, Microsoft was late several times. For instance, it was late to the Internet. It used its dominance in Desktop and server installations to push its way back in. It was late to the cell phone industry. It lost that battle.

Time will tell if the US automotive industry can push their way into an industry that they clearly are way behind in.

 

[dalola]

As far as politicians being anti-subsidy, you can't possibly say that with a straight face. They're only anti-subsidy-that-they-don't-like. Politicians love subsidies that benefit them and the companies that line their pockets.

What?? Really?? Shoot, I thought Pelosi was just a brilliant investor....

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

What?? Really?? Shoot, I thought Pelosi was just a brilliant investor....

Well, tbh, her husband was. Quite good in fact.

 

[Jimrpa]

No, team Edison was pretty mild compared to this skunkworks team. Team Edison is like the team who worked on the mach-e,and lightning. Their approach was basically taking ICE platforms and using them to make EVs which was extremely cost inefficient.

This skunkworks team is WAY more radical than team Edison, literally taking a different approach to almost every aspect of ev engineering, design, and manufacturing to create an affordable EV platform that's profitable to build. Ford's CEO basically described how seeing affordable Chinese EVs was like watching a bullet train rip past you while you were on a handcart. He talks about how Ford was never gonna compete with the best EVs in the world unless they rethought everything. Basically turning Ford's EV development department into its own bullet train so it could catch Chinese players and Tesla.

Yeah, that sounds about the same as the descriptions of “team Edison” from several years ago, with buzz-word tweaks to make it more contemporary-sounding. Sorry, but I’m a bit of a skeptic. I’ve spent too many years in management watching the same fads come and go, with nothing more than window-dressing changes.

Fun fact: America’s “bullet train” the new Acela is built by a French company (at a New York State factory) using a design based on the latest French TGV that has been “federalized” to meet US safety standards. It is in no way a true “bullet train”. I doubt the US will ever make the infrastructure investment necessary to deploy bullet trains that are similar to the Chinese, Japanese, and Europeans.

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